What is Nostr?
Daniel Wigton
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2024-10-16 09:45:58
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Daniel Wigton on Nostr: I don't think Pods are the answer. If they were Mastodon would be everything we ...

I don't think Pods are the answer. If they were Mastodon would be everything we wanted. But instead you get quasi locked into someone else's fiefdom.

Nostr has the same issue with relays. It isn't as bad since switching relays is easier, but unless you are running your own you are still at the mercy of someone else's whims.

Whatever comes next needs to be invariant from user to user. At least as invariant as it can be with our network layer. The only logical variation is public addressability under IP. (Blue-tooth mesh networks etc being actually invariant.)

Invariant does not mean equal. Some users will have greater storage, processing power, bandwidth, and faster pings to their contacts. Everyone, however, should own their own data and make their own connections.

The only reasonable definition of "own" is "hosts" but that term has baggage eliciting visions of configuring virtual private servers or docker containers, port forwarding on cheap routers, and all manner of nerdy headaches that only invite attacks.

But all it really means is that your data is physically saved on your devices and can be requested from you by authorized contacts. It doesn't fundementally need to be an active hobby.

Imagine a simplified case with a truly invariant mesh network. Everyone beams neutrinos directly to their personal contacts only. Getting a hold of anyone else would be 5 hops or less. Each user can save their own data to their device and merely notify some people that a reasource is available. Signed permission to request the data. Any unpermissioned request just gets dropped immediately by the first contact you ask to forward the request.

It is an automatic web-of-trust that isolates spam at the point of origin rather than the destination. This allows little people to host from the apps they use without getting overwhelmed.

But we don't have a magic p2p network with the IP protocol. Thus whatever is next isn't how do we give up and find more complicated server-client relationships that protect the clients. It needs to be how do we beat IP into a magic p2p network that works for everyone?
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