Waluigi Galleani on Nostr: GlitchyGentileFren I actually think the point of comedy is to make people laugh, if ...
GlitchyGentileFren (nprofile…ss2d)
I actually think the point of comedy is to make people laugh, if you can do more than that like you say expose stereotypes, or criticize society etc. that is good but if you're not funny then you're just preaching. By your definition, Mitch Hetberg, an absolute master of standup is just a clown come on https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vrIw2i4WtA4
Like with being a songwriter, a great songwriter will have something deeply meaningful to say, but if you don't have a strong foundation in melody and arrangement then whatever political message you have will just come off as corny. They said Dylan 'sold out' when he started writing love songs, pretentious bollocks.
Many comedians have deeper philosophical messages they tried to communicate, like Bill Hicks or George Carlin, but they were already masters of the craft long before they started pushing boundaries. And that's the problem I have with a lot of new comedians, especially those in Rogan's orbit, they want to act like they're the next Carlin without putting in the work of mastering the art of delivery, setup-punchline etc.
Dave Chapelle was a comedy virtuoso from a young age, but i have been pretty unimpressed with his specials of the last decade. Even worse so with Gervais, who imo was never very good at standup to begin with and better as a writer, and lately it's just kinda sad. These are examples of one great comedian and one okay comedian who success has made stale and lazy. I think a lot of people think they're funny because they just agree with their politics, because they see them as 'anti-woke' or whatever.
For me their questionable politics is not why I don't think they're funny. Norm McDonald was pretty right wing, he did a lot of edgy material, but he was funny until he died because he was a master of the craft, Luis CK likewise just never lost it and is a master performer. I would also put Doug Stanhope, don't agree with him on everything but no disputing his command of the stage.
I actually think the point of comedy is to make people laugh, if you can do more than that like you say expose stereotypes, or criticize society etc. that is good but if you're not funny then you're just preaching. By your definition, Mitch Hetberg, an absolute master of standup is just a clown come on https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vrIw2i4WtA4
Like with being a songwriter, a great songwriter will have something deeply meaningful to say, but if you don't have a strong foundation in melody and arrangement then whatever political message you have will just come off as corny. They said Dylan 'sold out' when he started writing love songs, pretentious bollocks.
Many comedians have deeper philosophical messages they tried to communicate, like Bill Hicks or George Carlin, but they were already masters of the craft long before they started pushing boundaries. And that's the problem I have with a lot of new comedians, especially those in Rogan's orbit, they want to act like they're the next Carlin without putting in the work of mastering the art of delivery, setup-punchline etc.
Dave Chapelle was a comedy virtuoso from a young age, but i have been pretty unimpressed with his specials of the last decade. Even worse so with Gervais, who imo was never very good at standup to begin with and better as a writer, and lately it's just kinda sad. These are examples of one great comedian and one okay comedian who success has made stale and lazy. I think a lot of people think they're funny because they just agree with their politics, because they see them as 'anti-woke' or whatever.
For me their questionable politics is not why I don't think they're funny. Norm McDonald was pretty right wing, he did a lot of edgy material, but he was funny until he died because he was a master of the craft, Luis CK likewise just never lost it and is a master performer. I would also put Doug Stanhope, don't agree with him on everything but no disputing his command of the stage.