gav on Nostr: ☃️merry chrimist☃️ cinerion diceynes Dalbor (1980) describes this sound as ...

☃️merry chrimist☃️ (npub1pt6…6mf6) cinerion (npub1fsq…s56e) diceynes (npub1qdd…x0ea) Dalbor (1980) describes this sound as follows: "[s̄] is a voiceless, corono-dentoalveolar groove fricative, the so-called s coronal or s plana because of the relatively flat shape of the tongue body.... To this writer, the coronal [s̄], heard throughout Andalusia, should be characterized by such terms as "soft," "fuzzy," or "imprecise," which, as we shall see, brings it quite close to one variety of /θ/ ... Canfield has referred, quite correctly, in our opinion, to this [s̄] as "the lisping coronal-dental," and Amado Alonso remarks how close it is to the post-dental [θ̦], suggesting a combined symbol [θˢ̣] to represent it".

they have literally no idea what theyre talking about it, they just know it sounds funny.

dento-aveolar should be taken seriously to mean anything, this same phrase refers to an s in caucaus languages that is retroflexed on the back of the teeth

i read these wikipedias a few years ago, its a few different authors with entirely different theories about how its articulated but theyre contradictory

"with the tongue pressing against the back of the top teeth" also this isnt true, the tongue is against the bottom of the top teeth, but half the time only the tip, and it usually raises rather than being perfectly flat, but it only contacts the bottom of top teeth it doesnt press against their back