walker on Nostr: I think you are feeling a lot of misplaced anger because Bitcoin is “dumping” to ...
I think you are feeling a lot of misplaced anger because Bitcoin is “dumping” to $76k petrodollars, and I know that feeling well. I felt it when Bitcoin dumped from $69k down to $16k after I bought all the way up to the top. So, I will respond to this in good faith.
A couple of points:
1. It’s very flattering to be lumped in with HODL (npub1rtl…jtfs) and ODELL (npub1qny…95gx) and I thank you for the compliment. However, I am not the “early adopter” you seem to think I am. I started stacking sats in 2020 and have bought all the way up to every top since then. I work a fiat mining job, save as much as I can in bitcoin, and do my best to create value in the Bitcoin space via Titcoin (npub10qr…xqj8) . That said, anyone who is buying bitcoin now is an “early adopter.”
2. Do you have an example of me “cheering for government to get in on Bitcoin”? If you’d like more detailed thoughts on this, check out this note
3. You say the government “plays the biggest role in whether regular people can afford to stack bitcoin or not” (for which me HODL and Odell are apparently to blame?) then also seem disappointed that Bitcoin’s fiat price is going down, making it more affordable for regular people (for which we are also to blame?)… This is confusing and I’d love clarification on how the three of us are to blame for everything, apparently.
4. “YOU TOLD US BITCOIN WAS THE WAY ONLY TO LET GOVERNMENT SWOOP IN AND KEEP IS OUT”…… bro, what?
(4.1) who is keeping you out?
(4.2) I didn’t “let” the government do shit. NO ONE CAN STOP ANYONE FROM HOLDING BITCOJN. Governments buying was inevitable… (see again
5. “Us little guys are getting fucked and will not tolerate it anymore” … I hope you’re not suggesting me Hodl and Odell are fucking you… because I can assure you we are not… the only one fucking you is the system. Those of us who are tired of getting fucked by the system save in bitcoin and try to create value in this world.
6. No, Bitcoin does *not* care. Bitcoin is a protocol. We, Bitcoiners, care a LOT. HODL, Odell and I care a lot. We also care about as many people as possible waking the fuck up and learning about Bitcoin. That’s why we talk about Bitcoin in public forums as much as possible. That’s why we tell our family and friends and strangers on the internet that they need to pay fucking attention to Bitcoin. Because we see what is happening and the inevitability of it all, and want as many people as possible to start stacking and save themselves and their families.
I hope this helps to clarify things, and will continue to respond in good faith until you give me a reason to do otherwise.
I promise you neither I nor HODL nor ODELL are the enemy here…
A couple of points:
1. It’s very flattering to be lumped in with HODL (npub1rtl…jtfs) and ODELL (npub1qny…95gx) and I thank you for the compliment. However, I am not the “early adopter” you seem to think I am. I started stacking sats in 2020 and have bought all the way up to every top since then. I work a fiat mining job, save as much as I can in bitcoin, and do my best to create value in the Bitcoin space via Titcoin (npub10qr…xqj8) . That said, anyone who is buying bitcoin now is an “early adopter.”
2. Do you have an example of me “cheering for government to get in on Bitcoin”? If you’d like more detailed thoughts on this, check out this note
quoting note1d09…ssj6A lot of people seem to have trouble comprehending that you can be highly critical of the government AND appreciate the historical significance of the Strategic Bitcoin Reserve Executive Order…
“OH SO YOU WANT THE GOVERNMENT TO HOLD BITCOIN??”
It’s not about *want* — it’s just reality.
SBR creation was the inevitable result of Bitcoin’s success. If Bitcoin was NOT winning, there would be no nation-state adoption.
Since Bitcoin IS winning, nation-state bitcoin adoption is inevitable.
I know, winning feels weird. You better get used to it.
You were right about Bitcoin, and all your friends, the media, and Elizabeth Warren were wrong. The most powerful nation on the planet just confirmed what you’ve been ranting about for years.
Bitcoin is money for enemies. Deal with it.
Every individual, company, and country will naturally try to accumulate as many possible units as they can of the only verifiably finite asset on the planet.
“BUT I DONT WANT THE GOVERNMENT TO OWN BITCOIN!!”
Too bad. Bitcoin doesn’t care.
“BUT WHAT ABOUT THE SEPARATION OF MONEY AND STATE?!”
Bitcoin *already* separated money and state; it separated the CREATION of money from state.
“WE SHOULD STOP THE GOVERNMENT FROM HOLDING BITCOIN!”
It’s impossible to stop the state, or anyone, from holding Bitcoin, because Bitcoin doesn’t care who you are and can’t discriminate. The same rules apply to everyone.
That’s kind of the whole point.
Anyway, follow Titcoin (npub10qr…xqj8)
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3. You say the government “plays the biggest role in whether regular people can afford to stack bitcoin or not” (for which me HODL and Odell are apparently to blame?) then also seem disappointed that Bitcoin’s fiat price is going down, making it more affordable for regular people (for which we are also to blame?)… This is confusing and I’d love clarification on how the three of us are to blame for everything, apparently.
4. “YOU TOLD US BITCOIN WAS THE WAY ONLY TO LET GOVERNMENT SWOOP IN AND KEEP IS OUT”…… bro, what?
(4.1) who is keeping you out?
(4.2) I didn’t “let” the government do shit. NO ONE CAN STOP ANYONE FROM HOLDING BITCOJN. Governments buying was inevitable… (see again
).quoting note1d09…ssj6A lot of people seem to have trouble comprehending that you can be highly critical of the government AND appreciate the historical significance of the Strategic Bitcoin Reserve Executive Order…
“OH SO YOU WANT THE GOVERNMENT TO HOLD BITCOIN??”
It’s not about *want* — it’s just reality.
SBR creation was the inevitable result of Bitcoin’s success. If Bitcoin was NOT winning, there would be no nation-state adoption.
Since Bitcoin IS winning, nation-state bitcoin adoption is inevitable.
I know, winning feels weird. You better get used to it.
You were right about Bitcoin, and all your friends, the media, and Elizabeth Warren were wrong. The most powerful nation on the planet just confirmed what you’ve been ranting about for years.
Bitcoin is money for enemies. Deal with it.
Every individual, company, and country will naturally try to accumulate as many possible units as they can of the only verifiably finite asset on the planet.
“BUT I DONT WANT THE GOVERNMENT TO OWN BITCOIN!!”
Too bad. Bitcoin doesn’t care.
“BUT WHAT ABOUT THE SEPARATION OF MONEY AND STATE?!”
Bitcoin *already* separated money and state; it separated the CREATION of money from state.
“WE SHOULD STOP THE GOVERNMENT FROM HOLDING BITCOIN!”
It’s impossible to stop the state, or anyone, from holding Bitcoin, because Bitcoin doesn’t care who you are and can’t discriminate. The same rules apply to everyone.
That’s kind of the whole point.
Anyway, follow Titcoin (npub10qr…xqj8)
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5. “Us little guys are getting fucked and will not tolerate it anymore” … I hope you’re not suggesting me Hodl and Odell are fucking you… because I can assure you we are not… the only one fucking you is the system. Those of us who are tired of getting fucked by the system save in bitcoin and try to create value in this world.
6. No, Bitcoin does *not* care. Bitcoin is a protocol. We, Bitcoiners, care a LOT. HODL, Odell and I care a lot. We also care about as many people as possible waking the fuck up and learning about Bitcoin. That’s why we talk about Bitcoin in public forums as much as possible. That’s why we tell our family and friends and strangers on the internet that they need to pay fucking attention to Bitcoin. Because we see what is happening and the inevitability of it all, and want as many people as possible to start stacking and save themselves and their families.
I hope this helps to clarify things, and will continue to respond in good faith until you give me a reason to do otherwise.
I promise you neither I nor HODL nor ODELL are the enemy here…