イリエ on Nostr: Punished Kero >Even if that's an opinion, it's a good one I think. You think it is a ...
Punished Kero (npub1dph…t7jj)
>Even if that's an opinion, it's a good one I think.
You think it is a good one, but you cannot say why. This makes all the difference.
>It is worthless to say who's the fault here
There is always meaning in tracing back events, seeing how and why something happened. Your wish to ignore all that cannot lead to sound conclusions.
>I think the best way is to look at the consequences.
>You want to look at the consequences, but you want to ignore the causes. What do we call such behavior?
>Out of all 5 Patriarchs, only one still stand
A mere fact that could support the exact opposite argument of yours. Furthermore, we Orthodox do not consider Patriarchs the equivalent of a Pope (popes occupy a position of power similar to the Pagan Roman High Priests). Our Patriarchs are fallible human beings, servants and members of the body of Christ, the Orthodox Church, and each body part has its own position to fill. Some are called to lead, some to follow. If you want to be first, prepare to be last. The Orthodox Church is not of this world.
>That alone is a good reason why the west wasn't wrong.
Not at all. Reality is not simple, much less when we trace it back throughout history. You don't have a good reason, you have no reason at all, just desire.
>Even if that's an opinion, it's a good one I think.
You think it is a good one, but you cannot say why. This makes all the difference.
>It is worthless to say who's the fault here
There is always meaning in tracing back events, seeing how and why something happened. Your wish to ignore all that cannot lead to sound conclusions.
>I think the best way is to look at the consequences.
>You want to look at the consequences, but you want to ignore the causes. What do we call such behavior?
>Out of all 5 Patriarchs, only one still stand
A mere fact that could support the exact opposite argument of yours. Furthermore, we Orthodox do not consider Patriarchs the equivalent of a Pope (popes occupy a position of power similar to the Pagan Roman High Priests). Our Patriarchs are fallible human beings, servants and members of the body of Christ, the Orthodox Church, and each body part has its own position to fill. Some are called to lead, some to follow. If you want to be first, prepare to be last. The Orthodox Church is not of this world.
>That alone is a good reason why the west wasn't wrong.
Not at all. Reality is not simple, much less when we trace it back throughout history. You don't have a good reason, you have no reason at all, just desire.