julian on Nostr: March 2025 ForumWG Minutes Apologies in advance if I misrepresented anybody or missed ...
March 2025 ForumWG Minutes
Apologies in advance if I misrepresented anybody or missed any crucial bits of information.
Julian provided a brief summary of the state of conversational contexts
two-pronged approach: top down (feps), bottom up (implementors)
IceShrimp.NET (waiting and watching)
Already exposes context collections, integration testing pending
Mitra
Implemented (top-level only) context collections of objects, tested and working
Julian said 7888 is object-based contexts, 171b is activity-based contexts and notes that activity-based context can be more comprehensive (incl. likes, reactions, updates)
a (@trwnh@mastodon.social) notes that 7888 is more generic and doesn't specify object-vs-activity; notes there is also a missing link between an object and its Create activity.
angus (@angusmcleod@mastodon.social) notes Discourse is essentially following 7888 but wants to know how to represent likes if implementors are predominately object-based
a: use the likes collection, evan (@evan@cosocial.ca) +1'd
Julian noted that the bottom-up approach (implementors) is mainly focused on backfill, and identifying other implementors.
Julian also notes that 171b implementors have made some inroads to support backfill from 7888 implementors, both FEPs are cross-compatible and we should strive to have it remain so
Freeform brainstorming session
Goal: identify and prioritise short-to-medium term goals for the ForumWG
Medium: Jitsi whiteboard
Unfortunately there was no note-taking during the whiteboarding session, but readers are encouraged to ask questions about items identified in the image above (or attached).
End goal is to be able to point to a set of FEPs if someone new to AP wanted to implement threaded discussions
Evan suggested that this would be a good report, but also recommended that a W3C explainer be created instead
Context ownership was identified as a foundational element that is worth exploring/fep creation, as it is what multiple future discussion items would be based upon.
https://community.nodebb.org/assets/uploads/files/1741291575509-forumwg-brainstorm-march-2025.svg
Apologies in advance if I misrepresented anybody or missed any crucial bits of information.
Julian provided a brief summary of the state of conversational contexts
two-pronged approach: top down (feps), bottom up (implementors)
IceShrimp.NET (waiting and watching)
Already exposes context collections, integration testing pending
Mitra
Implemented (top-level only) context collections of objects, tested and working
Julian said 7888 is object-based contexts, 171b is activity-based contexts and notes that activity-based context can be more comprehensive (incl. likes, reactions, updates)
a (@trwnh@mastodon.social) notes that 7888 is more generic and doesn't specify object-vs-activity; notes there is also a missing link between an object and its Create activity.
angus (@angusmcleod@mastodon.social) notes Discourse is essentially following 7888 but wants to know how to represent likes if implementors are predominately object-based
a: use the likes collection, evan (@evan@cosocial.ca) +1'd
Julian noted that the bottom-up approach (implementors) is mainly focused on backfill, and identifying other implementors.
Julian also notes that 171b implementors have made some inroads to support backfill from 7888 implementors, both FEPs are cross-compatible and we should strive to have it remain so
Freeform brainstorming session
Goal: identify and prioritise short-to-medium term goals for the ForumWG
Medium: Jitsi whiteboard
Unfortunately there was no note-taking during the whiteboarding session, but readers are encouraged to ask questions about items identified in the image above (or attached).
End goal is to be able to point to a set of FEPs if someone new to AP wanted to implement threaded discussions
Evan suggested that this would be a good report, but also recommended that a W3C explainer be created instead
Context ownership was identified as a foundational element that is worth exploring/fep creation, as it is what multiple future discussion items would be based upon.
https://community.nodebb.org/assets/uploads/files/1741291575509-forumwg-brainstorm-march-2025.svg
