manime on Nostr: Thank you Aleksandar. Sharing thoughts is important, even if getting thoughts out ...
Thank you Aleksandar. Sharing thoughts is important, even if getting thoughts out will always be hard.
FWIW, I am also committed to developing on Nostr for over a year now; and I’ve also thought long and hard and soberly about Nostr’s scalability; and I prolly agree with all of your points.
> 1: Nostr is a tool, not a revolution
Yes. AFAIKT, the future of “worldwide Nostr integration” IF NOSTR SURVIVES AT ALL will be apps that leverage “part but not all of Nostr”. These “hybrid apps” will have SOME OR MOST of their user generated content managed privately, and the rest being Nostr events hosted on user configured relays. Yes we need freedom tech, but mostly, we need freedom tech to survive BY BEING USED. Like it or not, Integration with black boxes is how this happens. IMHO
> 2: Nostr doesn’t solve the multiple social accounts problem
Yes. Good point, actually. Different apps DO have their own demographics and social graphs, and freedom tech social SHOULD be able to roll with this. The reality of “hybrid apps” as Nostr adoption increases (with their private data silos integrated into the freedom tech “experience”) will force this issue for Nostr.
> 3: Nostr is not for censorship resistance
Right. Nobody who doesn’t ALREADY care about freedom will be coming to Nostr for freedom tech. And censorship… people care more about muting voices they don’t like from their feeds than making sure their own voice is heard across other feeds. TBH. People are consumers. BUT ALSO there is a bit of self sovereignty that everybody does care about. Something along the lines of “nobody owns your identity online” coupled with “cross app portability” really does resonate. I’m sure, as we push on the edges of Nostr scalability, these little nuggets will be fleshed out, and THIS will be the “Nostr core” which the “hybrid apps” leverage for their end users.
> 4: Grants come with a price
Yes. But I’m not concerned. Why? Because startups like yours … applying Nostr to vertical markets, building for real world needs and users, pushing Nostr closer toward global adoption by building “hybrid apps” … THESE are the companies that will fill the WIDE CHASM of innovation left open by the “grants only” funding model. We need more of these “risk takers” to push Nostr out of the idealism provided by “grants only”.
Freedom tech NEEDS to be a bit uncomfortable, if it’s ever gonna find a LASTING foothold in our society of conveniences. (Yes, even Bitcoin knows this. Ask the NGU crowd)
Maybe we should talk further …
FWIW, I am also committed to developing on Nostr for over a year now; and I’ve also thought long and hard and soberly about Nostr’s scalability; and I prolly agree with all of your points.
> 1: Nostr is a tool, not a revolution
Yes. AFAIKT, the future of “worldwide Nostr integration” IF NOSTR SURVIVES AT ALL will be apps that leverage “part but not all of Nostr”. These “hybrid apps” will have SOME OR MOST of their user generated content managed privately, and the rest being Nostr events hosted on user configured relays. Yes we need freedom tech, but mostly, we need freedom tech to survive BY BEING USED. Like it or not, Integration with black boxes is how this happens. IMHO
> 2: Nostr doesn’t solve the multiple social accounts problem
Yes. Good point, actually. Different apps DO have their own demographics and social graphs, and freedom tech social SHOULD be able to roll with this. The reality of “hybrid apps” as Nostr adoption increases (with their private data silos integrated into the freedom tech “experience”) will force this issue for Nostr.
> 3: Nostr is not for censorship resistance
Right. Nobody who doesn’t ALREADY care about freedom will be coming to Nostr for freedom tech. And censorship… people care more about muting voices they don’t like from their feeds than making sure their own voice is heard across other feeds. TBH. People are consumers. BUT ALSO there is a bit of self sovereignty that everybody does care about. Something along the lines of “nobody owns your identity online” coupled with “cross app portability” really does resonate. I’m sure, as we push on the edges of Nostr scalability, these little nuggets will be fleshed out, and THIS will be the “Nostr core” which the “hybrid apps” leverage for their end users.
> 4: Grants come with a price
Yes. But I’m not concerned. Why? Because startups like yours … applying Nostr to vertical markets, building for real world needs and users, pushing Nostr closer toward global adoption by building “hybrid apps” … THESE are the companies that will fill the WIDE CHASM of innovation left open by the “grants only” funding model. We need more of these “risk takers” to push Nostr out of the idealism provided by “grants only”.
Freedom tech NEEDS to be a bit uncomfortable, if it’s ever gonna find a LASTING foothold in our society of conveniences. (Yes, even Bitcoin knows this. Ask the NGU crowd)
Maybe we should talk further …