whygetfat on Nostr: Scott Zimmerman: "When you look at moonlight, moonlight has a ton of near infrared. ...
Scott Zimmerman: "When you look at moonlight, moonlight has a ton of near infrared. In fact, it actually shifts slightly into the near infrared because of the reflectance characteristics of the moon's surface. It's at orders of magnitude lower than what you've got during the day, but there's a reason to call it a blue moon.
"One of the things is that we keep on saying that we have to have this red at night for the circadian response. Well, how can I have all the blue around me when I look around at a sunset? It's mostly blue, because we got this hemisphere of the atmosphere that's scattering blue, even into the sunset. And the sunset only lasts for 10, 15 minutes. So how can the red be the key element and blue be a bad thing? I'm not sure it is.
"I'll make this statement and people can get mad at me if they want. I think that circadian and sleep disruption is more of a function of (A) dimming range, but (B) lack of the near infrared. We fall asleep just fine outdoors under a blue night sky as we do, you know. . . we've kind of kind of convinced ourselves that we need to be red. I'm not 100% convinced that that's true. It's almost like circadian is a symptom of a more bigger problem.
"If you put enough near infrared back in, I'm not so sure you're going to have a sleep disruption. It's like Andrew said about spending a lot of time outdoors all day. You kind of pump things up. You can get through it."
Scott Zimmerman & Andrew LaTour with Max Gulhane MD @ 01:59:21–02:01:12 https://youtu.be/tU7gG-R-fkA&t=7161
"One of the things is that we keep on saying that we have to have this red at night for the circadian response. Well, how can I have all the blue around me when I look around at a sunset? It's mostly blue, because we got this hemisphere of the atmosphere that's scattering blue, even into the sunset. And the sunset only lasts for 10, 15 minutes. So how can the red be the key element and blue be a bad thing? I'm not sure it is.
"I'll make this statement and people can get mad at me if they want. I think that circadian and sleep disruption is more of a function of (A) dimming range, but (B) lack of the near infrared. We fall asleep just fine outdoors under a blue night sky as we do, you know. . . we've kind of kind of convinced ourselves that we need to be red. I'm not 100% convinced that that's true. It's almost like circadian is a symptom of a more bigger problem.
"If you put enough near infrared back in, I'm not so sure you're going to have a sleep disruption. It's like Andrew said about spending a lot of time outdoors all day. You kind of pump things up. You can get through it."
Scott Zimmerman & Andrew LaTour with Max Gulhane MD @ 01:59:21–02:01:12 https://youtu.be/tU7gG-R-fkA&t=7161