LogicallyMinded on Nostr: The #UFO / #UAP sphere is about to heat over the weekend as #RossCoulthart will air ...
The #UFO / #UAP sphere is about to heat over the weekend as #RossCoulthart will air an investigation on the topic of #alien crash retrieval programs. Although this isn’t new news, it will be interesting to pay attention to the conclusions on whether or not the US government (or affiliated entity) has successfully reverse-engineered alien tech. Indeed, Ross recently stated on the #DonaldTrumpJr podcast that those programs have failed to substantially reverse-engineered alien tech. https://rumble.com/v69odrm-out-of-this-world-breaking-news-investigation-on-secret-alien-aircrafts-liv.html?start=2955
This narrative would contradict the narrative, pushed by other UFO researchers, that many #UFOs / #UAPs seen in our skies are man-made.
One primary proponent of the latter narrative is #StevenGreer who claims that anti-gravity tech was mastered by black projects as early as 1954 (see 11:00 timestamp of video below).
https://www.youtube.com/live/ZWdSDvsKAXU?feature=shared
Greer states that whistleblowers who push the narrative that UFOs are likely of alien origin rather than man-made are intel agents seeking to conceal the truth via a limited #disclosure. He also claims that this limited hangout aims to keep the veil on alien-like tech to enable the staging of an alien invasion in order to roll out a global governance.
However, there are reasons to be skeptical of Greer narrative and arguments:
- Greer claims that the well-documented phenomena of human abductions and cattle mutilations by #aliens (especially by Greys) is actually conducted by a human faction of the deep state. This program would go as far as humans taking the apparence of Grey aliens so abductees couldn’t realize that they are victims of an elaborated hoax. The reason for staging these abductions would be to set the stage for the fake alien invasion false flag. However, abductions have been going on by the thousands for decades and the mockingbird media never reports on them. If this is all a psyop, it would be the longest-running most-subdued one ever! It’s also worth noting that the fake alien invasion narrative originated from second-hand accounts by Carol Rosin (who has worked and consulted for the CIA) of what Wernher Von Braun allegedly told her before passing away. To my knowledge this claim has never been confirmed by another source.
- Greer claims that humans in charge of black op projects have reached such a level of reverse-engineering that all UFOs seen in our skies could be man-made. However, so many different types and shapes of UFOs have been documented throughout the years that it seems unlikely that the deep state would go as far as to produce anti-gravity crafts of all shapes and sizes. It doesn’t seem to make sense from a design and production standpoint. And what would be the purpose for this? Staging a cosmic hoax? Other researchers often mentioned the triangular TR3B as being the anti-gravity man-made model. There are published patents describing this craft but even then, I wouldn’t bet that this one is man-made. Contrary to the plethora of evidences that there is an alien presence on Earth, there is actually very little evidence that humans have successfully reverse-engineered alien tech. Most of the evidences are testimonials from insiders which are to take with a grain of salt are those could originate from counter-intel ops. Also, Greer’s claims are inconsistent with the accounts made by #BobLazaar who was enrolled in a reverse-engineering program in the 80’s. Although, Lazaar certainly didn’t have the full scope of the operations, according to him, it seems that black projects were still struggling to crack the code of anti-gravity tech and may have at best some limited successes. So Greer says, we mastered the tech in 1954 but Lazaar was hired in the 80’s as scientists are still trying to figure it out.
- Besides the two points above, I think it’s fair to say that the UFO community that has been around for a while is generally dubious of Greer as a character. I often find that those going along with his narrative are newer to the UFO/alien subject. For instance, very few know that the Greer’s disclosure project has a connection with Laurance Rockefeller. Although, it’s unclear to me to which extent Rockefeller played a role in supporting Greer’s mission, it’s an interesting fact to ponder. Particularly, when considering that Greer goes hard against big oil since they have a vested interest in suppressing free energy technologies.
https://redefininggod.com/2014/10/why-are-the-rockefellers-and-the-jesuits-guiding-the-ufo-disclosure-movement/
There are also rumors that Greer may be a PR person for an alien race that has nefarious intents towards humans. His absolute refusal to consider any possibility that an alien race may have a malevolent agenda towards the human race is quite remarkable. Check out this interview by Project Camelot and judge for yourself. You may even notice that Greer does some strange faces with his mouth and tongue during this interview. Some would go as far as to say that Greer may be a reptilian-human hybrid: https://odysee.com/@PROJECTCAMELOT:d/project-camelot-interviews-dr-steven:f
In conclusion, maybe the real psyop isn’t about the coming of a fake alien invasion but maybe it is about the idea that the US government/deep state is fully capable of reverse-engineered alien tech. What would be the motives for such a psyop? I see two main possibilities:
- Concealing the truth about an alien presence to the public (“these are our crafts, not theirs”) to either avoid panic (admission that we are not the alpha specie and not in control) or have the public lower its guard against a nefarious alien agenda (such as hybridation and/or assimilation).
- Psyop aimed to foreign governments: the US has alien tech in its possession so you better watch out. I think this hypothesis is unlikely especially in light of the continuous incursions of UFOs above US military facilities.
That said I don’t exclude that humans may have had some great success with reverse-engineering efforts, however, I would want to see more convincing evidences to consider this scenario as probable. I also, don’t exclude the possibility that whistleblowers such as #LueElizondo, #DavidGrusch or #ChrisMellon are part of a top-down disclosure governmental operation but for what it’s worth, their endeavors seem more sincere than Greer’s claims and I don’t see as many holes in their claims. They don’t seem to be pushing a particular narrative and are rather asking for further investigative efforts. This isn’t definitive proof that they are the honest side of the debate but that’s what my intuition tells me.
This narrative would contradict the narrative, pushed by other UFO researchers, that many #UFOs / #UAPs seen in our skies are man-made.
One primary proponent of the latter narrative is #StevenGreer who claims that anti-gravity tech was mastered by black projects as early as 1954 (see 11:00 timestamp of video below).
https://www.youtube.com/live/ZWdSDvsKAXU?feature=shared
Greer states that whistleblowers who push the narrative that UFOs are likely of alien origin rather than man-made are intel agents seeking to conceal the truth via a limited #disclosure. He also claims that this limited hangout aims to keep the veil on alien-like tech to enable the staging of an alien invasion in order to roll out a global governance.
However, there are reasons to be skeptical of Greer narrative and arguments:
- Greer claims that the well-documented phenomena of human abductions and cattle mutilations by #aliens (especially by Greys) is actually conducted by a human faction of the deep state. This program would go as far as humans taking the apparence of Grey aliens so abductees couldn’t realize that they are victims of an elaborated hoax. The reason for staging these abductions would be to set the stage for the fake alien invasion false flag. However, abductions have been going on by the thousands for decades and the mockingbird media never reports on them. If this is all a psyop, it would be the longest-running most-subdued one ever! It’s also worth noting that the fake alien invasion narrative originated from second-hand accounts by Carol Rosin (who has worked and consulted for the CIA) of what Wernher Von Braun allegedly told her before passing away. To my knowledge this claim has never been confirmed by another source.
- Greer claims that humans in charge of black op projects have reached such a level of reverse-engineering that all UFOs seen in our skies could be man-made. However, so many different types and shapes of UFOs have been documented throughout the years that it seems unlikely that the deep state would go as far as to produce anti-gravity crafts of all shapes and sizes. It doesn’t seem to make sense from a design and production standpoint. And what would be the purpose for this? Staging a cosmic hoax? Other researchers often mentioned the triangular TR3B as being the anti-gravity man-made model. There are published patents describing this craft but even then, I wouldn’t bet that this one is man-made. Contrary to the plethora of evidences that there is an alien presence on Earth, there is actually very little evidence that humans have successfully reverse-engineered alien tech. Most of the evidences are testimonials from insiders which are to take with a grain of salt are those could originate from counter-intel ops. Also, Greer’s claims are inconsistent with the accounts made by #BobLazaar who was enrolled in a reverse-engineering program in the 80’s. Although, Lazaar certainly didn’t have the full scope of the operations, according to him, it seems that black projects were still struggling to crack the code of anti-gravity tech and may have at best some limited successes. So Greer says, we mastered the tech in 1954 but Lazaar was hired in the 80’s as scientists are still trying to figure it out.
- Besides the two points above, I think it’s fair to say that the UFO community that has been around for a while is generally dubious of Greer as a character. I often find that those going along with his narrative are newer to the UFO/alien subject. For instance, very few know that the Greer’s disclosure project has a connection with Laurance Rockefeller. Although, it’s unclear to me to which extent Rockefeller played a role in supporting Greer’s mission, it’s an interesting fact to ponder. Particularly, when considering that Greer goes hard against big oil since they have a vested interest in suppressing free energy technologies.
https://redefininggod.com/2014/10/why-are-the-rockefellers-and-the-jesuits-guiding-the-ufo-disclosure-movement/
There are also rumors that Greer may be a PR person for an alien race that has nefarious intents towards humans. His absolute refusal to consider any possibility that an alien race may have a malevolent agenda towards the human race is quite remarkable. Check out this interview by Project Camelot and judge for yourself. You may even notice that Greer does some strange faces with his mouth and tongue during this interview. Some would go as far as to say that Greer may be a reptilian-human hybrid: https://odysee.com/@PROJECTCAMELOT:d/project-camelot-interviews-dr-steven:f
In conclusion, maybe the real psyop isn’t about the coming of a fake alien invasion but maybe it is about the idea that the US government/deep state is fully capable of reverse-engineered alien tech. What would be the motives for such a psyop? I see two main possibilities:
- Concealing the truth about an alien presence to the public (“these are our crafts, not theirs”) to either avoid panic (admission that we are not the alpha specie and not in control) or have the public lower its guard against a nefarious alien agenda (such as hybridation and/or assimilation).
- Psyop aimed to foreign governments: the US has alien tech in its possession so you better watch out. I think this hypothesis is unlikely especially in light of the continuous incursions of UFOs above US military facilities.
That said I don’t exclude that humans may have had some great success with reverse-engineering efforts, however, I would want to see more convincing evidences to consider this scenario as probable. I also, don’t exclude the possibility that whistleblowers such as #LueElizondo, #DavidGrusch or #ChrisMellon are part of a top-down disclosure governmental operation but for what it’s worth, their endeavors seem more sincere than Greer’s claims and I don’t see as many holes in their claims. They don’t seem to be pushing a particular narrative and are rather asking for further investigative efforts. This isn’t definitive proof that they are the honest side of the debate but that’s what my intuition tells me.
quoting note1u42…pp70The more I research the #UFO topic, the more I believe that the US government/US contractors haven’t successfully developed technologies on-par with those owned by #alien species. They’ve certainly researched and experimented with alien tech and likely had some limited success but I’m really doubtful of the narratives stating that governments/private companies have mastered this tech to a competitive level.
I’m leaning towards this conclusion as it appears to me that most personalities pushing this narrative do so disingenuously. It seems to me that they want the public and potentially foreign adversaries to believe that the US has in its possession UFO-like tech.
However, I don’t exclude that a human faction may be in possession of more advanced tech but if that’s the case, this group would likely be under the command of an alien race hence we would have no business in stating that “it’s our crafts”.
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