mikedilger on Nostr: The Ukraine state that we know of started in 1991. Prior to that Kiev was never ...

The Ukraine state that we know of started in 1991. Prior to that Kiev was never sovereign over such a region unless you go way back before the Mongol invasion of 1236 which IMHO is too far back to be relevant to anything. Instead that area was controlled by Russia alternating with other powers such as Germany in WW2, Poland from 1920-1938, Austria-Hungary split with Russia for 120 years before WWI, and other than Crimea being controlled by the Crimeans, various splits between the Grand Duchy of Lithuania and Poland, Polish-Lithuanian Commonwealth, Cossacks, and of course Russia. Of course Kiev controlled locally but they were under the domination of these other powers.

But this is a silly way to determine who should control. Ideologically, I support smaller local groups who want freedom from larger groups, and I do so all the way down to the individual. I believe individuals should be sovereign if they want to be.

That being said, I don't recommend that individuals break laws and spit on police officers, as Ukraine seems pleased to do with Russia.