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According to man's school of thought, Eternal security, also known as "once saved, always saved", is the belief that from the moment anyone becomes a Christian, they will be saved from hell, and will not lose salvation.
But according to the Bible, someone that was once saved can still fall into sin, die in their sins and go to hell!
2 Peter 2:20-22 For if after they have escaped the pollutions of the world through the knowledge of the Lord and Saviour Jesus Christ, they are again entangled therein, and overcome, the latter end is worse with them than the beginning. For it had been better for them not to have known the way of righteousness, than, after they have known it, to turn from the holy commandment delivered unto them. But it is happened unto them according to the true proverb, The dog is turned to his own vomit again; and the sow that was washed to her wallowing in the mire.
Let's analyse some examples:
Judas was once saved! One cannot fall away from a place he has never been. So, accepting this falling away as truth, the conclusion is that one can be saved and then "fall away" or lose his salvation. How can a fallen man fall again if he was never saved at first? Acts 1:25 That he may take part of this ministry and apostleship, from which Judas by transgression fell, that he might go to his own place.
Judas Iscariot was standing in the Lord, and a follower of Christ before he fell into transgression.
Demas was once saved...
Colossians 4:14 Luke, the beloved physician, and Demas, greet you.
Philemon 1:24 Marcus, Aristarchus, Demas, Lucas, my fellow labourers. These are saved labourers that Paul referred to...
But Demas later backslided to love the world....
2 Timothy 4:10 For Demas hath forsaken me, having loved this present world, and is departed unto Thessalonica; Crescens to Galatia, Titus unto Dalmatia.
The book of 1 Cor. 5 was written to believers who have fallen into fornication.
"It is reported commonly that there is fornication among you, and such fornication as is not so much as named among the Gentiles, that one should have his father's wife."
Paul wouldn't have preached to those that are not saved yet in this manner.
The Seven churches in Revelation were saved believers before most of them fell. The Bible recorded their good works. The remedy for them was repentance. Mind you these happened AFTER PENTECOST. The church at Ephesus backslided and left its first love. God out of his infinite mercy, sent a message of warning to them. Can you then say that these Church are not truly saved at first? Then read Revelation 2:1-5 and see their stand before they fell.
Revelation 2:5 Remember therefore from whence thou art fallen, and repent, and do the first works; or else I will come unto thee quickly, and will remove thy candlestick out of his place, except thou repent.
David once fell into sin, Saul once fell into sin, Solomon once fell into sin, Ananias and Sapphire once fell into sin, lucifer once fell into sin! The lists are endless. These people were saved but along the lines, they fell into sin. Some have the grace to repent and utilized it while others wasted it, some don't have the grace to repent.
Those that say these people were not truly saved at first should bring evidence from the Bible and not self assumption. You don't assume the Bible, you believe it!
If once saved forever saved is true, why did the apostles write to believers that they should not commit sin and warned them to flee from fornication? Bible talked about repentance in various chapters. Eternal salvation is for those who always obey God. Once you disobey God, you will lose it just like King Saul in the Bible. The only way to reclaim it is through repentance.
Hebrews 5:9 And being made perfect, he became the author of ETERNAL SALVATION UNTO ALL THEM THAT OBEY HIM;
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But according to the Bible, someone that was once saved can still fall into sin, die in their sins and go to hell!
2 Peter 2:20-22 For if after they have escaped the pollutions of the world through the knowledge of the Lord and Saviour Jesus Christ, they are again entangled therein, and overcome, the latter end is worse with them than the beginning. For it had been better for them not to have known the way of righteousness, than, after they have known it, to turn from the holy commandment delivered unto them. But it is happened unto them according to the true proverb, The dog is turned to his own vomit again; and the sow that was washed to her wallowing in the mire.
Let's analyse some examples:
Judas was once saved! One cannot fall away from a place he has never been. So, accepting this falling away as truth, the conclusion is that one can be saved and then "fall away" or lose his salvation. How can a fallen man fall again if he was never saved at first? Acts 1:25 That he may take part of this ministry and apostleship, from which Judas by transgression fell, that he might go to his own place.
Judas Iscariot was standing in the Lord, and a follower of Christ before he fell into transgression.
Demas was once saved...
Colossians 4:14 Luke, the beloved physician, and Demas, greet you.
Philemon 1:24 Marcus, Aristarchus, Demas, Lucas, my fellow labourers. These are saved labourers that Paul referred to...
But Demas later backslided to love the world....
2 Timothy 4:10 For Demas hath forsaken me, having loved this present world, and is departed unto Thessalonica; Crescens to Galatia, Titus unto Dalmatia.
The book of 1 Cor. 5 was written to believers who have fallen into fornication.
"It is reported commonly that there is fornication among you, and such fornication as is not so much as named among the Gentiles, that one should have his father's wife."
Paul wouldn't have preached to those that are not saved yet in this manner.
The Seven churches in Revelation were saved believers before most of them fell. The Bible recorded their good works. The remedy for them was repentance. Mind you these happened AFTER PENTECOST. The church at Ephesus backslided and left its first love. God out of his infinite mercy, sent a message of warning to them. Can you then say that these Church are not truly saved at first? Then read Revelation 2:1-5 and see their stand before they fell.
Revelation 2:5 Remember therefore from whence thou art fallen, and repent, and do the first works; or else I will come unto thee quickly, and will remove thy candlestick out of his place, except thou repent.
David once fell into sin, Saul once fell into sin, Solomon once fell into sin, Ananias and Sapphire once fell into sin, lucifer once fell into sin! The lists are endless. These people were saved but along the lines, they fell into sin. Some have the grace to repent and utilized it while others wasted it, some don't have the grace to repent.
Those that say these people were not truly saved at first should bring evidence from the Bible and not self assumption. You don't assume the Bible, you believe it!
If once saved forever saved is true, why did the apostles write to believers that they should not commit sin and warned them to flee from fornication? Bible talked about repentance in various chapters. Eternal salvation is for those who always obey God. Once you disobey God, you will lose it just like King Saul in the Bible. The only way to reclaim it is through repentance.
Hebrews 5:9 And being made perfect, he became the author of ETERNAL SALVATION UNTO ALL THEM THAT OBEY HIM;
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