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Thank you for so generously responding to my gophery ramblings on your show, screwtape!
Generally the takeaway for the post that I was getting at was not so much about the intricacies of individual languages, but rather Illustrating how much those intricacies don't matter in the face of programming enjoyment. And more importantly, how we ought to be open to redefining what computing means to us, especially in the face of what it might look like outside of the constraints of common hardware, and more importantly, what it might look like within the context of sustainability and permacomputing.
Sure, we have enough commodity hardware laying around for us to recycle for a long time yet, but what about after that? Defining what computing means to us and what it might look like in that context (and re-thinking the entire manufacturing chain we depend on to do our computing) is something that's going to have to come from us individually, culminating into ideas shared by smolnet movements etc,... these ideas or progress on that front won't ever come from industry or the commercial computing fields.
As you already pointed out in previous shows, there exists a chasm between what computing means to us hackers and what computing means to the common computing industry employee who repeats and propagates the ideas and values of their employers (which mostly means status-quo or whatever funnels more money into their masters' pockets)-- Unfortunately their numbers are vastly greater, their voices louder, and their budgets bigger. It's up to us to carve our the future, though.
Having fun with programming languages, thinking about their design, the interaction with hardware/OS -- those are all things that are part of defining what computing means to us, now, as a community, and in the future wrt sustainability.
Thank you for so generously responding to my gophery ramblings on your show, screwtape!
Generally the takeaway for the post that I was getting at was not so much about the intricacies of individual languages, but rather Illustrating how much those intricacies don't matter in the face of programming enjoyment. And more importantly, how we ought to be open to redefining what computing means to us, especially in the face of what it might look like outside of the constraints of common hardware, and more importantly, what it might look like within the context of sustainability and permacomputing.
Sure, we have enough commodity hardware laying around for us to recycle for a long time yet, but what about after that? Defining what computing means to us and what it might look like in that context (and re-thinking the entire manufacturing chain we depend on to do our computing) is something that's going to have to come from us individually, culminating into ideas shared by smolnet movements etc,... these ideas or progress on that front won't ever come from industry or the commercial computing fields.
As you already pointed out in previous shows, there exists a chasm between what computing means to us hackers and what computing means to the common computing industry employee who repeats and propagates the ideas and values of their employers (which mostly means status-quo or whatever funnels more money into their masters' pockets)-- Unfortunately their numbers are vastly greater, their voices louder, and their budgets bigger. It's up to us to carve our the future, though.
Having fun with programming languages, thinking about their design, the interaction with hardware/OS -- those are all things that are part of defining what computing means to us, now, as a community, and in the future wrt sustainability.