Ryan Grant [ARCHIVE] on Nostr: 📅 Original date posted:2016-11-03 📝 Original message:On Wed, Nov 2, 2016 at ...
📅 Original date posted:2016-11-03
📝 Original message:On Wed, Nov 2, 2016 at 1:30 PM, Russell O'Connor via bitcoin-dev
<bitcoin-dev at lists.linuxfoundation.org> wrote:
> I'm interested in collecting and implementing other useful covenants, so if
> people have ideas, please post them.
I know of a good business case that could benefit from two nice
features.
As an example:
Two parties have initiated a transaction designed with
counterparty-minimization in mind. It uses MAST and has many
different payout distributions. Both parties enter expecting to
gain from the transaction, but both take on risk due to external
factors.
Because of the risks involved, there exist possible times when one
party may wish to renegotiate the exit distribution, and might
threaten to block any exit. Or, either party might get hit by the
proverbial bus. During such times, the other party's eventual exit
is protected by using a multisig which includes an oracle
determination. The oracle's trusted role is bound to this example's
unstated "external factors" in a very limited sense, and does not
include broader concerns, such as determining whether a party to the
transaction is of "sound mind and body".
The singular term "oracle" hides a set of entities participating in
m-of-n multisig, which we can name the "oracle-set".
Transaction terms include a CLTV lasting perhaps several years,
applied whenever the exit requires the oracle-set's signatures.
Both parties may mutually select and sign one of the payout
distributions, to exit early.
The example, as I've described it so far, doesn't need anything other
than MAST. It isn't a covenant, because it doesn't impose any forward
restrictions when satisfied; despite the contractual complications of
executing the oracle-set's signatures. As covenant features are
considered across updated instances of what is otherwise a singular
transaction, it's important that none carry into the final payout
distribution, and that this is easy to verify.
Features desired:
- One party would like to unilaterally sell their participation in
the transaction, to a previously unknown recipient, before the
CLTV becomes valid.
The other originating party's stored MAST should either continue
to function, or require minimal replacements that can be
deterministically applied using data visible on the blockchain.
It should not be necessary to ask permission from - or coordinate
online communication with - the other originating party.
(This can also be viewed as a key rotation problem for any
long-lasting multisig transaction.)
- Both parties would like to mutually revoke rouge oracle-entities
from the oracle-set, without exposing each other to any possible
renegotiation of other terms.
Note that these features affect each other, since if one party sells
their participation after any oracle-entities have been revoked, then
the revocations should not reset, but rather remain in effect, until a
proper payout executes the final agreement in the contract.
Of course, if there's a way to achieve these features with less risk
than evaluating covenant logic, I would very much like to hear how to
do so.
📝 Original message:On Wed, Nov 2, 2016 at 1:30 PM, Russell O'Connor via bitcoin-dev
<bitcoin-dev at lists.linuxfoundation.org> wrote:
> I'm interested in collecting and implementing other useful covenants, so if
> people have ideas, please post them.
I know of a good business case that could benefit from two nice
features.
As an example:
Two parties have initiated a transaction designed with
counterparty-minimization in mind. It uses MAST and has many
different payout distributions. Both parties enter expecting to
gain from the transaction, but both take on risk due to external
factors.
Because of the risks involved, there exist possible times when one
party may wish to renegotiate the exit distribution, and might
threaten to block any exit. Or, either party might get hit by the
proverbial bus. During such times, the other party's eventual exit
is protected by using a multisig which includes an oracle
determination. The oracle's trusted role is bound to this example's
unstated "external factors" in a very limited sense, and does not
include broader concerns, such as determining whether a party to the
transaction is of "sound mind and body".
The singular term "oracle" hides a set of entities participating in
m-of-n multisig, which we can name the "oracle-set".
Transaction terms include a CLTV lasting perhaps several years,
applied whenever the exit requires the oracle-set's signatures.
Both parties may mutually select and sign one of the payout
distributions, to exit early.
The example, as I've described it so far, doesn't need anything other
than MAST. It isn't a covenant, because it doesn't impose any forward
restrictions when satisfied; despite the contractual complications of
executing the oracle-set's signatures. As covenant features are
considered across updated instances of what is otherwise a singular
transaction, it's important that none carry into the final payout
distribution, and that this is easy to verify.
Features desired:
- One party would like to unilaterally sell their participation in
the transaction, to a previously unknown recipient, before the
CLTV becomes valid.
The other originating party's stored MAST should either continue
to function, or require minimal replacements that can be
deterministically applied using data visible on the blockchain.
It should not be necessary to ask permission from - or coordinate
online communication with - the other originating party.
(This can also be viewed as a key rotation problem for any
long-lasting multisig transaction.)
- Both parties would like to mutually revoke rouge oracle-entities
from the oracle-set, without exposing each other to any possible
renegotiation of other terms.
Note that these features affect each other, since if one party sells
their participation after any oracle-entities have been revoked, then
the revocations should not reset, but rather remain in effect, until a
proper payout executes the final agreement in the contract.
Of course, if there's a way to achieve these features with less risk
than evaluating covenant logic, I would very much like to hear how to
do so.