Thomas Voegtlin [ARCHIVE] on Nostr: 📅 Original date posted:2017-04-13 📝 Original message:I think it is better not ...
📅 Original date posted:2017-04-13
📝 Original message:I think it is better not to use the coinbase, because it might collide
with other proposals, and because coinbase is not part of the block header.
I agree that a small set of standard threshold may be sufficient; a one
percent resolution is probably not needed. If we use 4 bits we can
encode 15 different thresholds + zero (meaning no support). For example
we can have all thresholds between 25% and 95% separated by 5%.
Using 4 bits per soft-fork proposal leaves enough room to fit 7
simultaneous proposals in version bits. That should be plenty.
>
> I still like the coinbase idea though - more than using up the BIP9 versionbits range for verbose signaling.
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> BIP9 (and other proposals which use those 29 versionbits) currently assume that the participants on the network will coordinate in some form or other, to agree on what the bits mean (in terms of change deployments).
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> It would be very easy to also agree on a set of "standard" threshold levels and map those onto e.g. 1 byte.
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> Then, in the coinbase, one could have pairs of bit numbers and bytes, e.g. "/1A/2B/3C/" where the bytes values corresponding to 'A', 'B', 'C', ... are standardized deployment schedules that people find useful.
> So a BIP9 conformant schedule could be A = 95% / 2016 window,
> while B = 75%/2016, etc.
>
> This would be quite a compact yet still readable signaling. The space of values is large enough that I doubt we'd see much contention.
>
> Regards
> Sancho
>
📝 Original message:I think it is better not to use the coinbase, because it might collide
with other proposals, and because coinbase is not part of the block header.
I agree that a small set of standard threshold may be sufficient; a one
percent resolution is probably not needed. If we use 4 bits we can
encode 15 different thresholds + zero (meaning no support). For example
we can have all thresholds between 25% and 95% separated by 5%.
Using 4 bits per soft-fork proposal leaves enough room to fit 7
simultaneous proposals in version bits. That should be plenty.
>
> I still like the coinbase idea though - more than using up the BIP9 versionbits range for verbose signaling.
>
> BIP9 (and other proposals which use those 29 versionbits) currently assume that the participants on the network will coordinate in some form or other, to agree on what the bits mean (in terms of change deployments).
>
> It would be very easy to also agree on a set of "standard" threshold levels and map those onto e.g. 1 byte.
>
> Then, in the coinbase, one could have pairs of bit numbers and bytes, e.g. "/1A/2B/3C/" where the bytes values corresponding to 'A', 'B', 'C', ... are standardized deployment schedules that people find useful.
> So a BIP9 conformant schedule could be A = 95% / 2016 window,
> while B = 75%/2016, etc.
>
> This would be quite a compact yet still readable signaling. The space of values is large enough that I doubt we'd see much contention.
>
> Regards
> Sancho
>