Tom Zander [ARCHIVE] on Nostr: 📅 Original date posted:2016-10-16 📝 Original message:On Monday, 17 October 2016 ...
📅 Original date posted:2016-10-16
📝 Original message:On Monday, 17 October 2016 03:11:23 CEST Johnson Lau wrote:
> > Honestly, if the reason for the too-short-for-safety timespan is that
> > you
> > want to use BIP9, then please take a step back and realize that SegWit
> > is a contriversial soft-fork that needs to be deployed in a way that is
> > extra safe because you can't roll the feature back a week after
> > deployment. All transactions that were made in the mean time turn into
> > everyone-can- spent transactions.
>
> No one should use, nor anyone is advised to use, segwit transactions
> before it is fully activated.
Naturally, I fully agree.
It seems I choose the wrong words, let me rephrase;
You can't roll the SegWit back a week after people are allowed to send
segwit transactions (lock-in + fallow period). All transactions that were
made in the mean time turn into everyone-can- spent transactions.
Because the network as a whole and any implementation is unable to roll back
in an environment where SegWit is a contriversial soft-fork, it is super
important to make sure that it is properly supported by all miners. This
takes time and the risk you take by pushing this is that actual real people
loose actual real money because of the issue I outlined inthe previous
paragraph.
> Having 2 months or 2 weeks of grace period
> makes totally no difference in this regard. If anyone tried to use segwit
> tx during your proposed 2 months grace period, all those txs were still
> everyone-can-spent.
>
> All you are advocating is just stalling the process with no improvement in
> security.
I hope the above explains the actual security issue better.
--
Tom Zander
Blog: https://zander.github.io
Vlog: https://vimeo.com/channels/tomscryptochannel
📝 Original message:On Monday, 17 October 2016 03:11:23 CEST Johnson Lau wrote:
> > Honestly, if the reason for the too-short-for-safety timespan is that
> > you
> > want to use BIP9, then please take a step back and realize that SegWit
> > is a contriversial soft-fork that needs to be deployed in a way that is
> > extra safe because you can't roll the feature back a week after
> > deployment. All transactions that were made in the mean time turn into
> > everyone-can- spent transactions.
>
> No one should use, nor anyone is advised to use, segwit transactions
> before it is fully activated.
Naturally, I fully agree.
It seems I choose the wrong words, let me rephrase;
You can't roll the SegWit back a week after people are allowed to send
segwit transactions (lock-in + fallow period). All transactions that were
made in the mean time turn into everyone-can- spent transactions.
Because the network as a whole and any implementation is unable to roll back
in an environment where SegWit is a contriversial soft-fork, it is super
important to make sure that it is properly supported by all miners. This
takes time and the risk you take by pushing this is that actual real people
loose actual real money because of the issue I outlined inthe previous
paragraph.
> Having 2 months or 2 weeks of grace period
> makes totally no difference in this regard. If anyone tried to use segwit
> tx during your proposed 2 months grace period, all those txs were still
> everyone-can-spent.
>
> All you are advocating is just stalling the process with no improvement in
> security.
I hope the above explains the actual security issue better.
--
Tom Zander
Blog: https://zander.github.io
Vlog: https://vimeo.com/channels/tomscryptochannel