Johnson Lau [ARCHIVE] on Nostr: 📅 Original date posted:2019-03-21 📝 Original message: > On 20 Mar 2019, at 4:07 ...
📅 Original date posted:2019-03-21
📝 Original message:
> On 20 Mar 2019, at 4:07 PM, ZmnSCPxj via bitcoin-dev <bitcoin-dev at lists.linuxfoundation.org> wrote:
>
> Hi aj,
>
> Re-reading again, I think perhaps I was massively confused by this:
>
>> - alternatively, we could require every script to have a valid signature
>> that commits to the input. In that case, you could do eltoo with a
>> script like either:
>>
>> <A> CHECKSIGVERIFY <B> CHECKSIG
>> or <P> CHECKSIGVERIFY <Q> CHECKSIG
>>
>>
>> where A is Alice's key and B is Bob's key, P is muSig(A,B) and Q is
>> a key they both know the private key for. In the first case, Alice
>> would give Bob a NOINPUT sig for the tx, and when Bob wanted to publish
>> Bob would just do a SIGHASH_ALL sig with his own key. In the second,
>> Alice and Bob would share partial NOINPUT sigs of the tx with P, and
>> finish that when they wanted to publish.
>
> Do you mean that *either* of the above two scripts is OK, *or* do you mean they are alternatives within a single MAST or `OP_IF`?
>
It means either.
If you use <A> CHECKSIGVERIFY <B> CHECKSIG style, A and B will exchange the NOINPUT sig, and they will add the required non-NOINPUT sig when needed.
If you use <muSig(A,B)> CHECKVERIFY <Q> CHECKSIG, A and B will co-sign the muSig(A,B) with NOINPUT. They will also share the private key of Q, so they could produce a non-NOINPUT sig when needed.
The first style is slightly easier as it doesn’t need muSig. But with 3 or more parties, the second style is more efficient.
However, if you use watchtower, you have to use the second style. That means you need to share the private key for Q with the watchtower, That also means the watchtower will have the ability to reply the NOINPU muSig. But it is still strictly better than anyone-can-replay.
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📝 Original message:
> On 20 Mar 2019, at 4:07 PM, ZmnSCPxj via bitcoin-dev <bitcoin-dev at lists.linuxfoundation.org> wrote:
>
> Hi aj,
>
> Re-reading again, I think perhaps I was massively confused by this:
>
>> - alternatively, we could require every script to have a valid signature
>> that commits to the input. In that case, you could do eltoo with a
>> script like either:
>>
>> <A> CHECKSIGVERIFY <B> CHECKSIG
>> or <P> CHECKSIGVERIFY <Q> CHECKSIG
>>
>>
>> where A is Alice's key and B is Bob's key, P is muSig(A,B) and Q is
>> a key they both know the private key for. In the first case, Alice
>> would give Bob a NOINPUT sig for the tx, and when Bob wanted to publish
>> Bob would just do a SIGHASH_ALL sig with his own key. In the second,
>> Alice and Bob would share partial NOINPUT sigs of the tx with P, and
>> finish that when they wanted to publish.
>
> Do you mean that *either* of the above two scripts is OK, *or* do you mean they are alternatives within a single MAST or `OP_IF`?
>
It means either.
If you use <A> CHECKSIGVERIFY <B> CHECKSIG style, A and B will exchange the NOINPUT sig, and they will add the required non-NOINPUT sig when needed.
If you use <muSig(A,B)> CHECKVERIFY <Q> CHECKSIG, A and B will co-sign the muSig(A,B) with NOINPUT. They will also share the private key of Q, so they could produce a non-NOINPUT sig when needed.
The first style is slightly easier as it doesn’t need muSig. But with 3 or more parties, the second style is more efficient.
However, if you use watchtower, you have to use the second style. That means you need to share the private key for Q with the watchtower, That also means the watchtower will have the ability to reply the NOINPU muSig. But it is still strictly better than anyone-can-replay.
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