Sall Grover on Nostr: Giggle v Tickle appeal update: Litigation is a long & a mostly boring process, while ...
Giggle v Tickle appeal update:
Litigation is a long & a mostly boring process, while simultaneously being incredibly stressful. It’s a rollercoaster. Here is everything I know so far:
• Soon, there will be a hearing that will set a date for the appeal to be heard in court.
• This appeal is in the full Federal Court. This means that three Federal Court judges hear the case & come to a decision. The judge from the first round is not involved. His work is done on this case.
• The reason the first appeal is to the full Federal Court is because the current decision (“sex is changeable”) has both facts of the case and the law wrong.
• For example, the decision states that to use Giggle, users had to look like a cisgender woman. This is incorrect. To use Giggle, users had to be female, and female in the ordinary use of the word which is biological. This very important detail was, I think rather conveniently, ignored.
• The full Federal Court sits a few times a year. In 2025, the dates are March, July/August or November.
• Stuart Wood KC has joined the Giggle legal team, working with Bridie Nolan, Anca Costin & Katherine Deves.
• The possible outcomes are: Giggle wins the appeal, the other side appeals to the High Court; Giggle wins the appeal, the other side doesn’t appeal to the High Court; Giggle loses the appeal, Giggle appeals to the High Court.
• The High Court is the last court.
• I want a decision that establishes that women are a class of people that men cannot legally identify themselves into & female only - on the basis of SEX - spaces, events & services are lawful. Any politician or media commentator who says I am wrong in wanting that has to be held to account & explain why.
• In legal terms, what has to be established is that sex is a biological concept in the sex discrimination act. The current decision disputes that, citing 3 legal cases that acknowledged a person lying about their sex. This is in conflict with the the intention of the sex discrimination act and, of course, the entirety of human history.
• I am optimistic. I know we are right & I know that reality always wins - eventually. Reality is inescapable. The law has to reflect reality. In reality, no man is a woman so therefore no man should legally be a woman.
• The next update will be when we get a hearing date.
• As always, thank you everyone for the support. Let’s go get our rights back 🩷
https://t.co/LdTgu513kK
Litigation is a long & a mostly boring process, while simultaneously being incredibly stressful. It’s a rollercoaster. Here is everything I know so far:
• Soon, there will be a hearing that will set a date for the appeal to be heard in court.
• This appeal is in the full Federal Court. This means that three Federal Court judges hear the case & come to a decision. The judge from the first round is not involved. His work is done on this case.
• The reason the first appeal is to the full Federal Court is because the current decision (“sex is changeable”) has both facts of the case and the law wrong.
• For example, the decision states that to use Giggle, users had to look like a cisgender woman. This is incorrect. To use Giggle, users had to be female, and female in the ordinary use of the word which is biological. This very important detail was, I think rather conveniently, ignored.
• The full Federal Court sits a few times a year. In 2025, the dates are March, July/August or November.
• Stuart Wood KC has joined the Giggle legal team, working with Bridie Nolan, Anca Costin & Katherine Deves.
• The possible outcomes are: Giggle wins the appeal, the other side appeals to the High Court; Giggle wins the appeal, the other side doesn’t appeal to the High Court; Giggle loses the appeal, Giggle appeals to the High Court.
• The High Court is the last court.
• I want a decision that establishes that women are a class of people that men cannot legally identify themselves into & female only - on the basis of SEX - spaces, events & services are lawful. Any politician or media commentator who says I am wrong in wanting that has to be held to account & explain why.
• In legal terms, what has to be established is that sex is a biological concept in the sex discrimination act. The current decision disputes that, citing 3 legal cases that acknowledged a person lying about their sex. This is in conflict with the the intention of the sex discrimination act and, of course, the entirety of human history.
• I am optimistic. I know we are right & I know that reality always wins - eventually. Reality is inescapable. The law has to reflect reality. In reality, no man is a woman so therefore no man should legally be a woman.
• The next update will be when we get a hearing date.
• As always, thank you everyone for the support. Let’s go get our rights back 🩷
https://t.co/LdTgu513kK