Milly Bitcoin [ARCHIVE] on Nostr: š Original date posted:2015-06-24 š Original message:I have seen this question ...
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Original date posted:2015-06-24
š Original message:I have seen this question asked many times. Most developers become
defensive and they usually give a very vague 1-sentence answer when this
question is asked. It seems to be it is based on personalities rather
than any kind of definable process. To have that discussion the
personalities must be separated out and answers like "such-and-such
wouldn't do that" don't really do much to advance the discussion. Also,
the incentive for new developers to come in is that they will be paid by
companies who want to influence the code and this should be considered
(some developers take this statement as an insult when it is just a
statement of the incentive process).
The other problem you are having is the lead developer does not want to
be a "decider" when, in fact, he is a very significant decider. While
the users have the ultimate choice in a practical sense the chief
developer is the "decider." Now people don't want to get him upset so
nobody wants to push the issue or fully define the process. Now you are
left with a broken, unwritten/unspoken process. While this type of
thing may work with a small group of developers businesses/investors
looking in from the outside will see this as a risk.
Until you get passed all the personality-based arguments you are going
to have a tough time defining a real process.
Russ
On 6/24/2015 7:41 PM, Raystonn wrote:
> I would like to start a civil discussion on an undefined, or at least unwritten, portion of the BIP process. Who should get to vote on approval to commit a BIP implementation into Bitcoin Core? Is a simple majority of these voters sufficient for approval? If not, then what is?
>
> Raystonn
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š Original message:I have seen this question asked many times. Most developers become
defensive and they usually give a very vague 1-sentence answer when this
question is asked. It seems to be it is based on personalities rather
than any kind of definable process. To have that discussion the
personalities must be separated out and answers like "such-and-such
wouldn't do that" don't really do much to advance the discussion. Also,
the incentive for new developers to come in is that they will be paid by
companies who want to influence the code and this should be considered
(some developers take this statement as an insult when it is just a
statement of the incentive process).
The other problem you are having is the lead developer does not want to
be a "decider" when, in fact, he is a very significant decider. While
the users have the ultimate choice in a practical sense the chief
developer is the "decider." Now people don't want to get him upset so
nobody wants to push the issue or fully define the process. Now you are
left with a broken, unwritten/unspoken process. While this type of
thing may work with a small group of developers businesses/investors
looking in from the outside will see this as a risk.
Until you get passed all the personality-based arguments you are going
to have a tough time defining a real process.
Russ
On 6/24/2015 7:41 PM, Raystonn wrote:
> I would like to start a civil discussion on an undefined, or at least unwritten, portion of the BIP process. Who should get to vote on approval to commit a BIP implementation into Bitcoin Core? Is a simple majority of these voters sufficient for approval? If not, then what is?
>
> Raystonn
> _______________________________________________
> bitcoin-dev mailing list
> bitcoin-dev at lists.linuxfoundation.org
> https://lists.linuxfoundation.org/mailman/listinfo/bitcoin-dev
>