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📅 Original date posted:2014-04-08
📝 Original message:On Tue, Apr 8, 2014 at 3:18 PM, Pieter Wuille <pieter.wuille at gmail.com>wrote:
> I still don't understand the purpose of cointype. If you don't want to
> risk reusing the same keys across different currencies, just don't use
> the same seed or the same account? That is purely a client-side issue.
>
>
Of course it is purely client-side issue, but it matters.
There's actually no reason to generate, backup and store individual seeds
for various coins and purposes. User can handle all his identities and
altcoins with single seed, avoiding potential issues with using wrong seed
for other purposes.
Actually with accounts and cointypes in the path, you can have all your
crypto funds stored on single seed, which I see as very comfortable
solution.
But to gain advantages of such solution and avoid reusing the same path
across blockchains, we need to separate the space, which is achieved by
cointype.
> If the consensus is to add the cointype anyway, can we fix it to be
> equal to the 4-byte magic in the serialization (after setting the high
> bit to true)? That way there aren't two 4-byte magic codes that need
> to be defined for each, and at the same time make it obvious from the
> serialized form what it is for.
>
>
Serialization magic of bip32 seed is in my opinion completely unnecessary.
Most of software does not care about it anyway; You can use xprv/xpub pair
for main net, testnet, litecoin, dogecoin, whatevercoin.
Instead using the same seed (xprv) and then separate the chains *inside*
the bip32 path seems more useful to me.
Marek
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📝 Original message:On Tue, Apr 8, 2014 at 3:18 PM, Pieter Wuille <pieter.wuille at gmail.com>wrote:
> I still don't understand the purpose of cointype. If you don't want to
> risk reusing the same keys across different currencies, just don't use
> the same seed or the same account? That is purely a client-side issue.
>
>
Of course it is purely client-side issue, but it matters.
There's actually no reason to generate, backup and store individual seeds
for various coins and purposes. User can handle all his identities and
altcoins with single seed, avoiding potential issues with using wrong seed
for other purposes.
Actually with accounts and cointypes in the path, you can have all your
crypto funds stored on single seed, which I see as very comfortable
solution.
But to gain advantages of such solution and avoid reusing the same path
across blockchains, we need to separate the space, which is achieved by
cointype.
> If the consensus is to add the cointype anyway, can we fix it to be
> equal to the 4-byte magic in the serialization (after setting the high
> bit to true)? That way there aren't two 4-byte magic codes that need
> to be defined for each, and at the same time make it obvious from the
> serialized form what it is for.
>
>
Serialization magic of bip32 seed is in my opinion completely unnecessary.
Most of software does not care about it anyway; You can use xprv/xpub pair
for main net, testnet, litecoin, dogecoin, whatevercoin.
Instead using the same seed (xprv) and then separate the chains *inside*
the bip32 path seems more useful to me.
Marek
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