JohannYoddler on Nostr: Is it really this easy? First, your friend has to have heard of Nostr and be on it. ...
Is it really this easy? First, your friend has to have heard of Nostr and be on it. Not mind bending, but they have to Google "how to nostr" and click on the top link.
So I got [Nostr.how](https://nostr.how/en/get-started ) . Ignore the brackets It is markdown scripting.
I read and understand about keys. This takes a 2 minute read. They are kinda like computer speak for username and password. Sure your public key is how you find some one and how the apps and website primal tracks you, but there are alot of websites that do Nostr. I don't want to deal with copy and pasting keys multiple times. So I heard about alby.com and downloaded the extension. But you probably don't want to post only on your computer so maybe you will start with the app. Anyway because you follow advice and are paranoid enough about your right to speech you save your password in alby.com extension or a password manager.
Hopefully you have a password manager and don't have to spend 30 minute rabbit hole on password manager reviews and another 30 minute rabbit hole on youtube about using one of the things.
That's rediculus you say. I could setup and use keeppassx2.0 in 5 minutes and use by poking around the user interface in another 5. Congrats, my dad can't. I will never get him on.
We are on. We have an app or website, we have logged in with ably, we have poked around the settings of alby and copyed the keys into a desktop bound program like libreoffice or keepassX because we are cloud paranoid and if we used libreoffice we have password encryped it. By the way I pay for a cloud one that I really like called protonpass. I trust them, not google. We use ably because we don't like manually entering over and over again our private key. Less risk that way. Or is it? I don't read code. I don't know.
Am I paranoid enough?
Is the last paragraph 2 minutes or 30? Depends on the person.
I am now on the 3rd paragraph. Signing up, wait, I kinda skipped sorry but we are on and have signed up with the step by step guide.
Find your friends by their public key. What?! Sorry I know it's their username but I don't know my pubkey must less theirs. Unless they are tech savy and handed me a qr code or a website with it. That is the whole point of using a cryptographicly secure key setup instead of the username and password you have a not rememberable username and password so they can't hack it with a dictionary. There has to by an easier way. I give you Nip 05.
Nothing has blown anyone's mind yet, except my dad's. Love you Dad. Nip 05 is a protocall thing as I understand it, it's purpose is to give you a nostr name and 'verified blue check mark' like X formerly Twitter. Same Idea.
By the way we skipped signing, think of that like applying your privatekey into a form or password field and it goes into a math box and churns out an output. It proves your you without others getting hold of your private key. "not your keys not your crypto" or in nostr's case a ' crypto-message' that can carry crypto if you want.
Back to Nip 05, You read through the Get Nip-05 verified (5 more minutes) You gloss over the json file nonsense because you are normal person who doesn't code right? You also don't know what DNS is because your a normie, so the explanation you only get part of. But, you get that your are to sign up to a service that will put your pubkey aka public key (cuz you just got that internet lingo) next to a human readable reddit like name ( cuz you have been known as some varient of roxy5StreetCarDesire on the internet for years). And the service will churn for about a day on the good ones that uses a human to approve it. It will give you a human usable name. [service]( https://en.verified-nostr.com/#free ) The link is to the last site on the list, their free service. The list refers to the guide we have been reading.
So now it's a day later. We are verified.
When did we get the internet money (sats aka bitcoin on the lightning network) so we can be part of the cool kids and zap? I haven't mentioned that. It's not on the guide. Strange for bitcoin enthusiasts who started nostr. It's like everyone already knows what bitcoin is and what a layer 2 is (like lighting for example). Of course that guide alludes to it and explains in detail what steps to take in the sweeping to self custody and set up a wallet. I see a chicken and egg problem here. Do you explain bitcoin and the history of money and what a sweep is or self custody or a wallet is, or keys are, or do you explain nostr like twiter with a Bitcoin hook. I sense a blindness at this nexus. Show them nostr, walk them through in person creating an account and funding it and then get them varified, pay to get that relay and verification instantly in person then get them to put there debit card into a lighnting enabled bitcoin exchange and show them how to zap. Or heaven help us try to do the same thing with a wall of text across the internet.
I am not being critical or mocking the above video, but I am trying to show by a wall of text that there is a hurdle for certain people that most bitcoiners and developers aren't understanding. I was a bitcoiner, I still spent 5 hours reading watching things about nostr to understand and not just follow a step by step. I understand what dns is, I had a password manager. But please understand not everyone does. I admit, just following the guides I could have been up and running in say 15 minutes. But I had a lot of the background knowledge. And ultimately I hope someone will start repeating somewhere some of the hidden background knowledge that we just know. A list of you just signed up and zapped someone, what does it mean? Here's a list of topics and links for your new rabbit hole.
So I got [Nostr.how](https://nostr.how/en/get-started ) . Ignore the brackets It is markdown scripting.
I read and understand about keys. This takes a 2 minute read. They are kinda like computer speak for username and password. Sure your public key is how you find some one and how the apps and website primal tracks you, but there are alot of websites that do Nostr. I don't want to deal with copy and pasting keys multiple times. So I heard about alby.com and downloaded the extension. But you probably don't want to post only on your computer so maybe you will start with the app. Anyway because you follow advice and are paranoid enough about your right to speech you save your password in alby.com extension or a password manager.
Hopefully you have a password manager and don't have to spend 30 minute rabbit hole on password manager reviews and another 30 minute rabbit hole on youtube about using one of the things.
That's rediculus you say. I could setup and use keeppassx2.0 in 5 minutes and use by poking around the user interface in another 5. Congrats, my dad can't. I will never get him on.
We are on. We have an app or website, we have logged in with ably, we have poked around the settings of alby and copyed the keys into a desktop bound program like libreoffice or keepassX because we are cloud paranoid and if we used libreoffice we have password encryped it. By the way I pay for a cloud one that I really like called protonpass. I trust them, not google. We use ably because we don't like manually entering over and over again our private key. Less risk that way. Or is it? I don't read code. I don't know.
Am I paranoid enough?
Is the last paragraph 2 minutes or 30? Depends on the person.
I am now on the 3rd paragraph. Signing up, wait, I kinda skipped sorry but we are on and have signed up with the step by step guide.
Find your friends by their public key. What?! Sorry I know it's their username but I don't know my pubkey must less theirs. Unless they are tech savy and handed me a qr code or a website with it. That is the whole point of using a cryptographicly secure key setup instead of the username and password you have a not rememberable username and password so they can't hack it with a dictionary. There has to by an easier way. I give you Nip 05.
Nothing has blown anyone's mind yet, except my dad's. Love you Dad. Nip 05 is a protocall thing as I understand it, it's purpose is to give you a nostr name and 'verified blue check mark' like X formerly Twitter. Same Idea.
By the way we skipped signing, think of that like applying your privatekey into a form or password field and it goes into a math box and churns out an output. It proves your you without others getting hold of your private key. "not your keys not your crypto" or in nostr's case a ' crypto-message' that can carry crypto if you want.
Back to Nip 05, You read through the Get Nip-05 verified (5 more minutes) You gloss over the json file nonsense because you are normal person who doesn't code right? You also don't know what DNS is because your a normie, so the explanation you only get part of. But, you get that your are to sign up to a service that will put your pubkey aka public key (cuz you just got that internet lingo) next to a human readable reddit like name ( cuz you have been known as some varient of roxy5StreetCarDesire on the internet for years). And the service will churn for about a day on the good ones that uses a human to approve it. It will give you a human usable name. [service]( https://en.verified-nostr.com/#free ) The link is to the last site on the list, their free service. The list refers to the guide we have been reading.
So now it's a day later. We are verified.
When did we get the internet money (sats aka bitcoin on the lightning network) so we can be part of the cool kids and zap? I haven't mentioned that. It's not on the guide. Strange for bitcoin enthusiasts who started nostr. It's like everyone already knows what bitcoin is and what a layer 2 is (like lighting for example). Of course that guide alludes to it and explains in detail what steps to take in the sweeping to self custody and set up a wallet. I see a chicken and egg problem here. Do you explain bitcoin and the history of money and what a sweep is or self custody or a wallet is, or keys are, or do you explain nostr like twiter with a Bitcoin hook. I sense a blindness at this nexus. Show them nostr, walk them through in person creating an account and funding it and then get them varified, pay to get that relay and verification instantly in person then get them to put there debit card into a lighnting enabled bitcoin exchange and show them how to zap. Or heaven help us try to do the same thing with a wall of text across the internet.
I am not being critical or mocking the above video, but I am trying to show by a wall of text that there is a hurdle for certain people that most bitcoiners and developers aren't understanding. I was a bitcoiner, I still spent 5 hours reading watching things about nostr to understand and not just follow a step by step. I understand what dns is, I had a password manager. But please understand not everyone does. I admit, just following the guides I could have been up and running in say 15 minutes. But I had a lot of the background knowledge. And ultimately I hope someone will start repeating somewhere some of the hidden background knowledge that we just know. A list of you just signed up and zapped someone, what does it mean? Here's a list of topics and links for your new rabbit hole.