Aymeric Vitte [ARCHIVE] on Nostr: 📅 Original date posted:2023-02-16 🗒️ Summary of this message: A workaround to ...
📅 Original date posted:2023-02-16
🗒️ Summary of this message: A workaround to the 80-byte OP_RETURN limitation in Bitcoin has been proposed, but it is unclear how long it will take to be adopted.
📝 Original message:It's super unclear how long it could take for such a change to be adopted
Then the answer is simple, see:
https://gist.github.com/Ayms/01dbfebf219965054b4a3beed1bfeba7#workaround-to-the-80b-op_return-limitation
Outstandingly, very, mega, bad, but working, bringing bitcoin back 10
years ago
But why not? If bitcoin folks don't get that we need a 1tx storage
solution for the future, then let's bring back bitcoin into the past and
destroy coins
Le 12/02/2023 à 17:23, Aymeric Vitte a écrit :
>
> https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/issues/27043#issuecomment-1427069403
>
> "What is the process to have someone do the PR for this? Or I do it
> and most likely it will be a very shxtty one since I am not a C/C++
> expert, then wasting the time of everybody
>
> It's urgently required, I did consider OP_RETURN as a dart in the past
> but changed my mind, it's adapted to the current evolutions, not
> flooding bitcoin with 2 txs while only 1 is needed
>
> If not the best 1 tx solution is super simple: store in addresses, and
> super bad at the end because burning bitcoins, while still not
> expensive if you don't need to store big things"
>
>
> Le 05/02/2023 à 19:12, Russell O'Connor via bitcoin-dev a écrit :
>>
>>
>> On Sat., Feb. 4, 2023, 21:01 Peter Todd, <pete at petertodd.org
>> <mailto:pete at petertodd.org>> wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>> On February 5, 2023 1:11:35 AM GMT+01:00, Russell O'Connor via
>> bitcoin-dev <bitcoin-dev at lists.linuxfoundation.org
>> <mailto:bitcoin-dev at lists.linuxfoundation.org>> wrote:
>> >Since bytes in the witness are cheaper than bytes in the script
>> pubkey,
>> >there is a crossover point in data size where it will simply be
>> cheaper to
>> >use witness data. Where that crossover point is depends on the
>> finer
>> >details of the overhead of the two methods, but you could make some
>> >reasonable assumptions. Such a calculation could form the basis
>> of a
>> >reasonable OP_RETURN proposal. I don't know if it would be
>> persuasive, but
>> >it would at least be coherent.
>>
>> I don't think it's worth the technical complexity trying to
>> carefully argue a specific limit. Let users decide for themselves
>> how they want to use OpReturn.
>>
>>
>> Even better.
>>
>>
>>
>> _______________________________________________
>> bitcoin-dev mailing list
>> bitcoin-dev at lists.linuxfoundation.org
>> https://lists.linuxfoundation.org/mailman/listinfo/bitcoin-dev
>
> --
> Sophia-Antipolis, France
> CV: https://www.peersm.com/CVAV.pdf
> LinkedIn: https://fr.linkedin.com/in/aymeric-vitte-05855b26
> GitHub : https://www.github.com/Ayms
> A Universal Coin Swap system based on Bitcoin: https://gist.github.com/Ayms/029125db2583e1cf9c3209769eb2cdd7
> A bitcoin NFT system: https://gist.github.com/Ayms/01dbfebf219965054b4a3beed1bfeba7
> Move your coins by yourself (browser version): https://peersm.com/wallet
> Bitcoin transactions made simple: https://github.com/Ayms/bitcoin-transactions
> torrent-live: https://github.com/Ayms/torrent-live
> node-Tor : https://www.github.com/Ayms/node-Tor
> Anti-spies and private torrents, dynamic blocklist: http://torrent-live.peersm.com
> Peersm : http://www.peersm.com
--
Sophia-Antipolis, France
CV: https://www.peersm.com/CVAV.pdf
LinkedIn: https://fr.linkedin.com/in/aymeric-vitte-05855b26
GitHub : https://www.github.com/Ayms
A Universal Coin Swap system based on Bitcoin: https://gist.github.com/Ayms/029125db2583e1cf9c3209769eb2cdd7
A bitcoin NFT system: https://gist.github.com/Ayms/01dbfebf219965054b4a3beed1bfeba7
Move your coins by yourself (browser version): https://peersm.com/wallet
Bitcoin transactions made simple: https://github.com/Ayms/bitcoin-transactions
torrent-live: https://github.com/Ayms/torrent-live
node-Tor : https://www.github.com/Ayms/node-Tor
Anti-spies and private torrents, dynamic blocklist: http://torrent-live.peersm.com
Peersm : http://www.peersm.com
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🗒️ Summary of this message: A workaround to the 80-byte OP_RETURN limitation in Bitcoin has been proposed, but it is unclear how long it will take to be adopted.
📝 Original message:It's super unclear how long it could take for such a change to be adopted
Then the answer is simple, see:
https://gist.github.com/Ayms/01dbfebf219965054b4a3beed1bfeba7#workaround-to-the-80b-op_return-limitation
Outstandingly, very, mega, bad, but working, bringing bitcoin back 10
years ago
But why not? If bitcoin folks don't get that we need a 1tx storage
solution for the future, then let's bring back bitcoin into the past and
destroy coins
Le 12/02/2023 à 17:23, Aymeric Vitte a écrit :
>
> https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/issues/27043#issuecomment-1427069403
>
> "What is the process to have someone do the PR for this? Or I do it
> and most likely it will be a very shxtty one since I am not a C/C++
> expert, then wasting the time of everybody
>
> It's urgently required, I did consider OP_RETURN as a dart in the past
> but changed my mind, it's adapted to the current evolutions, not
> flooding bitcoin with 2 txs while only 1 is needed
>
> If not the best 1 tx solution is super simple: store in addresses, and
> super bad at the end because burning bitcoins, while still not
> expensive if you don't need to store big things"
>
>
> Le 05/02/2023 à 19:12, Russell O'Connor via bitcoin-dev a écrit :
>>
>>
>> On Sat., Feb. 4, 2023, 21:01 Peter Todd, <pete at petertodd.org
>> <mailto:pete at petertodd.org>> wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>> On February 5, 2023 1:11:35 AM GMT+01:00, Russell O'Connor via
>> bitcoin-dev <bitcoin-dev at lists.linuxfoundation.org
>> <mailto:bitcoin-dev at lists.linuxfoundation.org>> wrote:
>> >Since bytes in the witness are cheaper than bytes in the script
>> pubkey,
>> >there is a crossover point in data size where it will simply be
>> cheaper to
>> >use witness data. Where that crossover point is depends on the
>> finer
>> >details of the overhead of the two methods, but you could make some
>> >reasonable assumptions. Such a calculation could form the basis
>> of a
>> >reasonable OP_RETURN proposal. I don't know if it would be
>> persuasive, but
>> >it would at least be coherent.
>>
>> I don't think it's worth the technical complexity trying to
>> carefully argue a specific limit. Let users decide for themselves
>> how they want to use OpReturn.
>>
>>
>> Even better.
>>
>>
>>
>> _______________________________________________
>> bitcoin-dev mailing list
>> bitcoin-dev at lists.linuxfoundation.org
>> https://lists.linuxfoundation.org/mailman/listinfo/bitcoin-dev
>
> --
> Sophia-Antipolis, France
> CV: https://www.peersm.com/CVAV.pdf
> LinkedIn: https://fr.linkedin.com/in/aymeric-vitte-05855b26
> GitHub : https://www.github.com/Ayms
> A Universal Coin Swap system based on Bitcoin: https://gist.github.com/Ayms/029125db2583e1cf9c3209769eb2cdd7
> A bitcoin NFT system: https://gist.github.com/Ayms/01dbfebf219965054b4a3beed1bfeba7
> Move your coins by yourself (browser version): https://peersm.com/wallet
> Bitcoin transactions made simple: https://github.com/Ayms/bitcoin-transactions
> torrent-live: https://github.com/Ayms/torrent-live
> node-Tor : https://www.github.com/Ayms/node-Tor
> Anti-spies and private torrents, dynamic blocklist: http://torrent-live.peersm.com
> Peersm : http://www.peersm.com
--
Sophia-Antipolis, France
CV: https://www.peersm.com/CVAV.pdf
LinkedIn: https://fr.linkedin.com/in/aymeric-vitte-05855b26
GitHub : https://www.github.com/Ayms
A Universal Coin Swap system based on Bitcoin: https://gist.github.com/Ayms/029125db2583e1cf9c3209769eb2cdd7
A bitcoin NFT system: https://gist.github.com/Ayms/01dbfebf219965054b4a3beed1bfeba7
Move your coins by yourself (browser version): https://peersm.com/wallet
Bitcoin transactions made simple: https://github.com/Ayms/bitcoin-transactions
torrent-live: https://github.com/Ayms/torrent-live
node-Tor : https://www.github.com/Ayms/node-Tor
Anti-spies and private torrents, dynamic blocklist: http://torrent-live.peersm.com
Peersm : http://www.peersm.com
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