Jeff Cliff 🦝 on Nostr: > is YOUR CLAIM because I HAVE SEEN STUDIES THAT PROVE MASKS ARE NOT EFFECTIVE. then ...
> is YOUR CLAIM because I HAVE SEEN STUDIES THAT PROVE MASKS ARE NOT EFFECTIVE.
then you have seen studies which have made a mistake, or are not measuring what you think you are measuring.
> "Masks and vaccinations are supported by the scientific evidence" is again a VACUOUS claim
No it isn't.
> Did vaccinations prevent others from getting infected,
yes
> BUT WE WERE TOLD THERE WERE STUDIES DONE THAT PROVED THEY WORKED.
They do work at reducing severity of infection, transmission, and fatality.
> So whether they "work" or not appears to depend on the study one refers to and one can find studies PRO and CON many positions.
not really
> Moreover, where's your BALANCE insofar as VACCINES HAVE BEEN SHOWN TO CAUSE DAMAGE
The balance is as follows; the risk of damage is significantly less than with the infection (that the vaccines reduce).
> "studies have shown that vaccinations are supported by scientific evidence" is simply a reckless endorsement with no concern for the consequences.
No it isn't.
> How many EXCESS DEATHS have been reported thanks to vaccine-induced MYOCARDITIS?
very few relative to the COVID-induced myocarditis.
> Cite any position on the issues and you can find material endorsing that position.
Not all material is of equal value.
> Covid as BULLSHIT,
Not sure who you're arguing with but if this is where you're coming from I can imagine why they are not taking you seriously. Covid has killed 10s of millions of people and continues to cause mass havok across the world.
> it was a disease that HUMANS CREATED
No it wasn't. See npub1ng3elnju7fsn8v80fsewmzg3fsyfetnr80685u4js7xvvtfkd7hsrcxe28 (npub1ng3…xe28) 's report.
> When I HEAR that Covid is surging in my area, I will take some precautions.
what is your area?
> One "plays it by ear" until we purge politics from agencies such as the CDC.
This is a bad heuristic.
then you have seen studies which have made a mistake, or are not measuring what you think you are measuring.
> "Masks and vaccinations are supported by the scientific evidence" is again a VACUOUS claim
No it isn't.
> Did vaccinations prevent others from getting infected,
yes
> BUT WE WERE TOLD THERE WERE STUDIES DONE THAT PROVED THEY WORKED.
They do work at reducing severity of infection, transmission, and fatality.
> So whether they "work" or not appears to depend on the study one refers to and one can find studies PRO and CON many positions.
not really
> Moreover, where's your BALANCE insofar as VACCINES HAVE BEEN SHOWN TO CAUSE DAMAGE
The balance is as follows; the risk of damage is significantly less than with the infection (that the vaccines reduce).
> "studies have shown that vaccinations are supported by scientific evidence" is simply a reckless endorsement with no concern for the consequences.
No it isn't.
> How many EXCESS DEATHS have been reported thanks to vaccine-induced MYOCARDITIS?
very few relative to the COVID-induced myocarditis.
> Cite any position on the issues and you can find material endorsing that position.
Not all material is of equal value.
> Covid as BULLSHIT,
Not sure who you're arguing with but if this is where you're coming from I can imagine why they are not taking you seriously. Covid has killed 10s of millions of people and continues to cause mass havok across the world.
> it was a disease that HUMANS CREATED
No it wasn't. See npub1ng3elnju7fsn8v80fsewmzg3fsyfetnr80685u4js7xvvtfkd7hsrcxe28 (npub1ng3…xe28) 's report.
> When I HEAR that Covid is surging in my area, I will take some precautions.
what is your area?
> One "plays it by ear" until we purge politics from agencies such as the CDC.
This is a bad heuristic.