{ "id": "b4e314c36961b448ce2fe1c1eb93711ecc7126c689cc9e2b6fe23b33733b97df", "pubkey": "f7922a0adb3fa4dda5eecaa62f6f7ee6159f7f55e08036686c68e08382c34788", "created_at": 1739724968, "kind": 9802, "tags": [ [ "r", "https://allesvoorbitcoin.substack.com/p/why-value4value-in-bitcoin-is-a-scam", "source" ], [ "comment", "The V4V model was coined by Adam Curry and John C Dvorak on the No Agenda show around 15 years ago. \n\nPC 2.0 adopted this model so they would be community supported and not reliant on VC money and it's worked for 4+ years so far. They make no money from it and actually pay taxes on the income to the LLC. \n\nThe money is to keep the servers running but the Time and Talent piece you can't put a dollar amount on. You get brilliant and passionate people showing up to help where they can because they want to. \n\nvalue4value.info" ] ], "content": "Soon, however, such goodwill people will start to be disgruntled or at least less happy about the V4V model's returns. Let's face it, Value4Value was a marketing term invented by Adam Curry, along with Dave Jones, to launch a concept as an anti-movement against Apple's hegemony.\nIt was meant to preserve free speech (that, it succeeded in; they've put the \"free\" in free speech).\nFor themselves, because they had the first-mover advantage, it worked out fine. And until like the end of 2015, it worked very well.", "sig": "5dc648b3e7a424171986b387f7df0098203ac166d03fa15a4506b2c1202c8fb2d3434eae3cd942dc7bd128d76765b8273d51e2495d16c4114bfb11580361a6d1" }