🎓 Dr. Freemo :jpf: 🇳🇱 on Nostr: timorl Ooof, you should be careful with that, LGB is mostly used by transphobes who ...
timorl (npub1vtu…wl2l) Ooof, you should be careful with that, LGB is mostly used by transphobes who want to divide the movement.
I think you know by now I judge an idea by its own merit, not its association with any one group or not. non-insignificant way a descriptor of a political movement/group that has shared political interests,
I have no problem combining the acronyms when the context makes sense to do so . If I am speaking of something that actually has combined relevance to both I can always say LGBP+TICN and then otherwise leave them seperate when i am talking specifically about orientation vs gender. Other than the political connection there is also the fact that gender and sexual attraction are pretty strongly connected for most people, so it even makes sense to lump them together from a purely categorization perspective.
Sure, plenty of times the two groups make sense to talk about collectively, just as often it makes sense to talk about one or the other. Ultimately which of the two, or both, that might be used will depend on context. As it should. If you dislike the acronym then “gender and sexual minorities” is a pretty neutral way of referring to the group,
Its not that I dislike the acronym per se. Itis that it 1) includes terms which have no useful meaning (queer) and really have no relevance in most context and 2) it is so generalized as to be less useful than being able to have the means properly categorized in a semantic way.
So the quote you offer simply doesnt address number 2 and defeats the purpose. Oh, and being intersex isn’t in any way about gender expression
Absolutely is for much of intersexed conditions, though you are right sometimes it is sex and not gender.
For example Androgen Insensitivity Syndrom is an intersex condition that directly effects your bodies expression of gender. By contrast Klinefelter syndrom effects both how your gender is expressed (effects yoru genitals, body, body hair, height, etc) and yoru sex (dna).
The only real difference is that intersex is clearly not a choice WRT to gender expression whereas the other ones are choices in gender expersssion. and being trans and being a crossdresser are about gender expression in quite different ways.
Very different for sure, but still gender expression all the same. Obviously again we go back to context, if we are talking about gender in such a way that the distinction between these groups is needed, then that can be expressed on a case by case basis, as it should be.
I think you know by now I judge an idea by its own merit, not its association with any one group or not. non-insignificant way a descriptor of a political movement/group that has shared political interests,
I have no problem combining the acronyms when the context makes sense to do so . If I am speaking of something that actually has combined relevance to both I can always say LGBP+TICN and then otherwise leave them seperate when i am talking specifically about orientation vs gender. Other than the political connection there is also the fact that gender and sexual attraction are pretty strongly connected for most people, so it even makes sense to lump them together from a purely categorization perspective.
Sure, plenty of times the two groups make sense to talk about collectively, just as often it makes sense to talk about one or the other. Ultimately which of the two, or both, that might be used will depend on context. As it should. If you dislike the acronym then “gender and sexual minorities” is a pretty neutral way of referring to the group,
Its not that I dislike the acronym per se. Itis that it 1) includes terms which have no useful meaning (queer) and really have no relevance in most context and 2) it is so generalized as to be less useful than being able to have the means properly categorized in a semantic way.
So the quote you offer simply doesnt address number 2 and defeats the purpose. Oh, and being intersex isn’t in any way about gender expression
Absolutely is for much of intersexed conditions, though you are right sometimes it is sex and not gender.
For example Androgen Insensitivity Syndrom is an intersex condition that directly effects your bodies expression of gender. By contrast Klinefelter syndrom effects both how your gender is expressed (effects yoru genitals, body, body hair, height, etc) and yoru sex (dna).
The only real difference is that intersex is clearly not a choice WRT to gender expression whereas the other ones are choices in gender expersssion. and being trans and being a crossdresser are about gender expression in quite different ways.
Very different for sure, but still gender expression all the same. Obviously again we go back to context, if we are talking about gender in such a way that the distinction between these groups is needed, then that can be expressed on a case by case basis, as it should be.