Linux Is Best on Nostr: > " How can you list OVH as outside US-jurisdiction, when they offer, US based ...
> " How can you list OVH as outside US-jurisdiction, when they offer, US based servers? "
Explaining legality on social media, is not easy. This is why people hire lawyers, why I wish legalese was illegal, and I certainly wish all laws were written in the common tongue. Because explaining things to people, is not always easy, and doing it on social media, confined into a simple post, even harder. But I'll try, and I'll keep it simple.
1st, you need to know, OVH has fought the United States Government in a court of law, and won (See URL). That is no easy task.
The United States absolutely wanted WikiLeaks, the website which was sharing their top secret, confidential information, to be taken offline. OVH, being a French company, based out of France, disagreed. And they were able to do this, because they have no services in the United States.
I know, you're thinking, but wait, they sell US-based servers. They're technically reselling. In the US, OVH is a customer, the same way you're a customer. They lease from other web hosting companies, and instead of using those servers for themselves, they hand them over to you.
This is why, if any of you have previously ordered services from OVH, especially if you ordered more than one, you noticed how vastly different the service may be if you ordered a US Server. Not all web hosting providers are created equal, and some of the US-based companies OVH subscribed from are better than others.
It is also why, if you ordered an OVH Server in the US and another in France, but had a question for both, you received a quick reply concerning the France server. But you likely noticed a downgrade in customer support from a US server, because, your, inquire is passed along from OVH to the US, back to OVH, and then to you. OVH is a customer of the customer service offered in the USA.
OVH is only a customer and that distinguish difference is why OVH was able to fight the United States in a court of law, arguing both they, their website, and the direct services they offer were not under US-jurisdiction, and why WikiLeaks, much to the horror of the United States Government, remained online, spilling all their private secrets, even today (it is still online). Although, today, they're hosted by Scaleway, which I also included in my list of recommended web hosting providers.
When I listed OVH, I trusted YOU to be smart enough not to order a US-based server. Which you should not do, because, of course, than your website falls under US-jurisdiction. And, had WikiLeaks been on one of those US Servers at the time, they most certainly would have been shutdown.
OVH is an unusual exception. They are not the norm. Most providers who offer servers in the USA, own their own hardware, and hire their own staff, with their own office located in the USA. OVH is not one of those companies, and like any customer, they can unsubscribe and move on. Which OVH did for a time.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/OVHcloud
Explaining legality on social media, is not easy. This is why people hire lawyers, why I wish legalese was illegal, and I certainly wish all laws were written in the common tongue. Because explaining things to people, is not always easy, and doing it on social media, confined into a simple post, even harder. But I'll try, and I'll keep it simple.
1st, you need to know, OVH has fought the United States Government in a court of law, and won (See URL). That is no easy task.
The United States absolutely wanted WikiLeaks, the website which was sharing their top secret, confidential information, to be taken offline. OVH, being a French company, based out of France, disagreed. And they were able to do this, because they have no services in the United States.
I know, you're thinking, but wait, they sell US-based servers. They're technically reselling. In the US, OVH is a customer, the same way you're a customer. They lease from other web hosting companies, and instead of using those servers for themselves, they hand them over to you.
This is why, if any of you have previously ordered services from OVH, especially if you ordered more than one, you noticed how vastly different the service may be if you ordered a US Server. Not all web hosting providers are created equal, and some of the US-based companies OVH subscribed from are better than others.
It is also why, if you ordered an OVH Server in the US and another in France, but had a question for both, you received a quick reply concerning the France server. But you likely noticed a downgrade in customer support from a US server, because, your, inquire is passed along from OVH to the US, back to OVH, and then to you. OVH is a customer of the customer service offered in the USA.
OVH is only a customer and that distinguish difference is why OVH was able to fight the United States in a court of law, arguing both they, their website, and the direct services they offer were not under US-jurisdiction, and why WikiLeaks, much to the horror of the United States Government, remained online, spilling all their private secrets, even today (it is still online). Although, today, they're hosted by Scaleway, which I also included in my list of recommended web hosting providers.
When I listed OVH, I trusted YOU to be smart enough not to order a US-based server. Which you should not do, because, of course, than your website falls under US-jurisdiction. And, had WikiLeaks been on one of those US Servers at the time, they most certainly would have been shutdown.
OVH is an unusual exception. They are not the norm. Most providers who offer servers in the USA, own their own hardware, and hire their own staff, with their own office located in the USA. OVH is not one of those companies, and like any customer, they can unsubscribe and move on. Which OVH did for a time.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/OVHcloud