utopiArte on Nostr: #federation #fediVerse Forward of some comments by nprofile1q…nueu5 about the ...
#federation #fediVerse
Forward of some comments by nprofile1qy2hwumn8ghj7un9d3shjtnddaehgu3wwp6kyqpq44wye33vq3vt728jhd0w47fv790gmuk8gkxuak6rgzm0tun4ag2q8nueu5 (nprofile…ueu5) about the latest events in the walled VC gardens and the place #diaspora* actually still embodies in the fedi. Even tho I not only consider that his comments are on spot, without having any idea about the internal situation or discussion of #framasphere, in general there are a few things to point out.
Besides the fact that the diaspora community needs desperately #help by #coders and #developers to further their project, at least that what it sounds like, there is some certain "elitist" tribal viewpoint around that community, at least it feels like that. In general terms, this tribalism is a universal human skill, apparently coded deep into our DNA, and we witness this all the time. It's not different with other communities like #mastodon, or those who come from #twitter and refuse any change or questioning of their evolved culture, or what we experienced when #pluspora came along and started stirring up the fediVerse community by trying to impose their culture evolved on g+.
So, even if I for myself can envision a bright future for diaspora in the fediVerse, and I truly would like to see that community thrive again, as well as considering that their decision to not adopt #activityPub will stay in place, something that actually creates an interesting setup, what would be needed at least is a cooperative behavior with the coders of the platforms that create the bridge to the fediVerse. What we have is some kind of semipermeable wall that integrates but doesn't overwhelm the diaspora space. Last time we had this will to cooperate trully working, at least that's what @Mike mentioned in it's time, was the decisive help and attitude be @Ilya ❤️ . Without that, the integration with the fediVerse will always not only be flawed but probably even deteriorate as running behind coders that are overloaded with their tasks and anything but helpful in their attitude and behavior, sooner or later will perjudicate interaction and federation of the communities. It already did. So if for example framasphere were to reverse course, the cooperation for example with #friendica and #hubzilla, in terms of coding would be key I guess so diaspora can be really considered a part of the fediVerse in the future to come.
Just a few cents of thought, hope D* doesn't become some mayor Tom in our space, yet it looks to me that this isn't a matter of the vast majority of users on both sides, or the coders from over here.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DVM9PnGw5z8♲ @nprofile1qy2hwumn8ghj7un9d3shjtnddaehgu3wwp6kyqpq44wye33vq3vt728jhd0w47fv790gmuk8gkxuak6rgzm0tun4ag2q8nueu5 (nprofile…ueu5):The announcement of #markzuckerberg today is proving us once again that #diaspora has a role to play in today's internet. This was already the case 10 years ago and we never really managed to keep the development pace high, but it still is a reliable piece of software.I think I should have defended it more when the decision was taken at #framasoft to shut down #framasphere, the biggest french pod. Honestly, we could really have kept it online. I'm not going to go back on what happened now, but I think the important message here is, we need simple, privacy-respectful, easy-to-use social networks, and while diaspora* is far from perfect, it is still answering a need. Microblogging is a different thing and personally I really don't like it.
Maybe it's time to put around the table all the people who are ready to get involved and act?
Forward of some comments by nprofile1qy2hwumn8ghj7un9d3shjtnddaehgu3wwp6kyqpq44wye33vq3vt728jhd0w47fv790gmuk8gkxuak6rgzm0tun4ag2q8nueu5 (nprofile…ueu5) about the latest events in the walled VC gardens and the place #diaspora* actually still embodies in the fedi. Even tho I not only consider that his comments are on spot, without having any idea about the internal situation or discussion of #framasphere, in general there are a few things to point out.
Besides the fact that the diaspora community needs desperately #help by #coders and #developers to further their project, at least that what it sounds like, there is some certain "elitist" tribal viewpoint around that community, at least it feels like that. In general terms, this tribalism is a universal human skill, apparently coded deep into our DNA, and we witness this all the time. It's not different with other communities like #mastodon, or those who come from #twitter and refuse any change or questioning of their evolved culture, or what we experienced when #pluspora came along and started stirring up the fediVerse community by trying to impose their culture evolved on g+.
So, even if I for myself can envision a bright future for diaspora in the fediVerse, and I truly would like to see that community thrive again, as well as considering that their decision to not adopt #activityPub will stay in place, something that actually creates an interesting setup, what would be needed at least is a cooperative behavior with the coders of the platforms that create the bridge to the fediVerse. What we have is some kind of semipermeable wall that integrates but doesn't overwhelm the diaspora space. Last time we had this will to cooperate trully working, at least that's what @Mike mentioned in it's time, was the decisive help and attitude be @Ilya ❤️ . Without that, the integration with the fediVerse will always not only be flawed but probably even deteriorate as running behind coders that are overloaded with their tasks and anything but helpful in their attitude and behavior, sooner or later will perjudicate interaction and federation of the communities. It already did. So if for example framasphere were to reverse course, the cooperation for example with #friendica and #hubzilla, in terms of coding would be key I guess so diaspora can be really considered a part of the fediVerse in the future to come.
Just a few cents of thought, hope D* doesn't become some mayor Tom in our space, yet it looks to me that this isn't a matter of the vast majority of users on both sides, or the coders from over here.
👍
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DVM9PnGw5z8♲ @nprofile1qy2hwumn8ghj7un9d3shjtnddaehgu3wwp6kyqpq44wye33vq3vt728jhd0w47fv790gmuk8gkxuak6rgzm0tun4ag2q8nueu5 (nprofile…ueu5):The announcement of #markzuckerberg today is proving us once again that #diaspora has a role to play in today's internet. This was already the case 10 years ago and we never really managed to keep the development pace high, but it still is a reliable piece of software.I think I should have defended it more when the decision was taken at #framasoft to shut down #framasphere, the biggest french pod. Honestly, we could really have kept it online. I'm not going to go back on what happened now, but I think the important message here is, we need simple, privacy-respectful, easy-to-use social networks, and while diaspora* is far from perfect, it is still answering a need. Microblogging is a different thing and personally I really don't like it.
Maybe it's time to put around the table all the people who are ready to get involved and act?