Fabio Manganiello on Nostr: > they never index anything you write on the internet That’s a bit of a wide ...
> they never index anything you write on the internet
That’s a bit of a wide definition of “usage”. Anyone can run a scraper to index my blog or posts, but that doesn’t mean that I’m “using” their product.
Same goes for writing to GMail - people email me on my private server, but I wouldn’t say that they are “users” of my server.
> you never use a browser that has google code in it
That’s again a wide definition of “usage”. I mitigate this by using Firefox, which isn’t based on the Chromium engine - unless the definition of “usage” is “anything that has code committed by a Google employee in it”, but then we fall into the “purity for the sake of purity” argument.
> you never use websites that use google analytics or google fonts
Both of them are blocked by NoScript, and analytics are blocked on the DNS side before they can even reach one of my devices anyway.
All this to say that if by “usage” we mean “any potential data point that Google can collect about us, even through indirect usage”, then I agree with your statement. Even if I were super paranoid and sealed, my neighbour with a Google Wi-Fi router or an Android device part of the Find My Device network could already made me an “indirect user”.
But my definition of “usage” is usually a bit tighter and it involves mostly “direct usage”. On that front, I think that we can all try and play our little part.
That’s a bit of a wide definition of “usage”. Anyone can run a scraper to index my blog or posts, but that doesn’t mean that I’m “using” their product.
Same goes for writing to GMail - people email me on my private server, but I wouldn’t say that they are “users” of my server.
> you never use a browser that has google code in it
That’s again a wide definition of “usage”. I mitigate this by using Firefox, which isn’t based on the Chromium engine - unless the definition of “usage” is “anything that has code committed by a Google employee in it”, but then we fall into the “purity for the sake of purity” argument.
> you never use websites that use google analytics or google fonts
Both of them are blocked by NoScript, and analytics are blocked on the DNS side before they can even reach one of my devices anyway.
All this to say that if by “usage” we mean “any potential data point that Google can collect about us, even through indirect usage”, then I agree with your statement. Even if I were super paranoid and sealed, my neighbour with a Google Wi-Fi router or an Android device part of the Find My Device network could already made me an “indirect user”.
But my definition of “usage” is usually a bit tighter and it involves mostly “direct usage”. On that front, I think that we can all try and play our little part.