Chaofan Li [ARCHIVE] on Nostr: 📅 Original date posted:2018-01-22 📝 Original message:Hi ZmnSCPxj I dont think ...
📅 Original date posted:2018-01-22
📝 Original message:Hi ZmnSCPxj
I dont think they need to be ENFORCED to be worth the same.
If the two chains’ algorithms are the same , except some identifiers (eg.
btc.0 btc.1）, they have no reason to have different value. If so, the
market will adjust the value.
Also, the total supply can be the same. The amount in blockchains is just
some numbers. The wallet can display correct amount, according to the
identifiers.
The voluntary split is also backward compatible with old version
transactions, they can be treated as tx for both chains and included in
both chains later. For new version Tx after fork, some identifiers must be
added , to mark the tx is for that chain only. The miners need to choose
one chain to mine.
After several voluntary splits , the Blockchain basically become a
blocktree, new blocks are added to the leaves(eg. btc.00 btc.01 btc.10
btc.11 ), providing even more capacity.
Chaofan
On Mon, Jan 22, 2018 at 5:13 AM ZmnSCPxj <ZmnSCPxj at protonmail.com> wrote:
> Good morning Chaofan Li,
>
> What enforces that bitcoin A is worth the same as bitcoin B? Or are they
> allowed to eventually diverge in price? If they diverge in price, how is
> that different from the current situation with Bitcoin, BCash, Bitcoin
> Gold, Bitcoin Hardfork-of-the-week, and so on?
>
> Regards,
> ZmnSCPxj
>
>
> Sent with ProtonMail <https://protonmail.com>; Secure Email.
>
> -------- Original Message --------
> On January 17, 2018 3:55 PM, Chaofan Li via bitcoin-dev <
> bitcoin-dev at lists.linuxfoundation.org> wrote:
>
>
>
> Here I propose a simple method to solve the scalability issue of
> blockchain.
> It is more like a financial trick rather than a technical solution.
>
> The technical part is very simple:
> Split ( hard fork ) the blockchain into two or more blockchains (e.g. two
> blockchain A and B), voluntarily.
> The two blockchains are the same except for some identifiers to
> distinguish the two blockchains.
> The coins on one blockchains cannot be sent to the other one or interfered
> by the other blockchain ( considering so many hard forks in the last year,
> the replay protection should work in this situation)
> Everyone get double bitcoins. Each has half value of original one
> bitcoin.
> Then, we have two almost same blockchains and the capacity of the original
> blockchain is doubled theoretically.
> When sending coin, the wallet should select one blockchain randomly and
> try to send through only one blockchain (If there is enough bitcoins)
> I think it is a possible solution, if the community realize no
> previously owned asset value is lost.
>
> The method is inspired by the stock split
> <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stock_split>;.
> When a stock share is split, for example into two shares, the price halves.
> The market capitalization remains the same.
> There is no dilution of every shareholders' total assets.
>
> The bitcoin often emphasizes that the total coin supply should not be
> changed.
> If the total supply increases, the value of a single coin will be diluted.
> That is true.
> However, the bad part of inflation of fiat money is not diluted value of
> every unit of fiat money caused by total supply increase.
> The problem is the increased supply is not delivered to everyone
> proportional to their previously owned money.
> The increased supply is released through debt expansion.
> The people that can borrow more money with low interest ratio (during QE,
> it was nearly 0) can invest and get profit.
> Or they don't even need to pay back the debt. The debt is left to
> government, which might never pay back the debt, and some get more money
> from government.
> Others' money are diluted.
>
> With voluntary split of bitcoin, dilution of anyone's bitcoin assets won't
> happen.
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
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📝 Original message:Hi ZmnSCPxj
I dont think they need to be ENFORCED to be worth the same.
If the two chains’ algorithms are the same , except some identifiers (eg.
btc.0 btc.1）, they have no reason to have different value. If so, the
market will adjust the value.
Also, the total supply can be the same. The amount in blockchains is just
some numbers. The wallet can display correct amount, according to the
identifiers.
The voluntary split is also backward compatible with old version
transactions, they can be treated as tx for both chains and included in
both chains later. For new version Tx after fork, some identifiers must be
added , to mark the tx is for that chain only. The miners need to choose
one chain to mine.
After several voluntary splits , the Blockchain basically become a
blocktree, new blocks are added to the leaves(eg. btc.00 btc.01 btc.10
btc.11 ), providing even more capacity.
Chaofan
On Mon, Jan 22, 2018 at 5:13 AM ZmnSCPxj <ZmnSCPxj at protonmail.com> wrote:
> Good morning Chaofan Li,
>
> What enforces that bitcoin A is worth the same as bitcoin B? Or are they
> allowed to eventually diverge in price? If they diverge in price, how is
> that different from the current situation with Bitcoin, BCash, Bitcoin
> Gold, Bitcoin Hardfork-of-the-week, and so on?
>
> Regards,
> ZmnSCPxj
>
>
> Sent with ProtonMail <https://protonmail.com>; Secure Email.
>
> -------- Original Message --------
> On January 17, 2018 3:55 PM, Chaofan Li via bitcoin-dev <
> bitcoin-dev at lists.linuxfoundation.org> wrote:
>
>
>
> Here I propose a simple method to solve the scalability issue of
> blockchain.
> It is more like a financial trick rather than a technical solution.
>
> The technical part is very simple:
> Split ( hard fork ) the blockchain into two or more blockchains (e.g. two
> blockchain A and B), voluntarily.
> The two blockchains are the same except for some identifiers to
> distinguish the two blockchains.
> The coins on one blockchains cannot be sent to the other one or interfered
> by the other blockchain ( considering so many hard forks in the last year,
> the replay protection should work in this situation)
> Everyone get double bitcoins. Each has half value of original one
> bitcoin.
> Then, we have two almost same blockchains and the capacity of the original
> blockchain is doubled theoretically.
> When sending coin, the wallet should select one blockchain randomly and
> try to send through only one blockchain (If there is enough bitcoins)
> I think it is a possible solution, if the community realize no
> previously owned asset value is lost.
>
> The method is inspired by the stock split
> <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stock_split>;.
> When a stock share is split, for example into two shares, the price halves.
> The market capitalization remains the same.
> There is no dilution of every shareholders' total assets.
>
> The bitcoin often emphasizes that the total coin supply should not be
> changed.
> If the total supply increases, the value of a single coin will be diluted.
> That is true.
> However, the bad part of inflation of fiat money is not diluted value of
> every unit of fiat money caused by total supply increase.
> The problem is the increased supply is not delivered to everyone
> proportional to their previously owned money.
> The increased supply is released through debt expansion.
> The people that can borrow more money with low interest ratio (during QE,
> it was nearly 0) can invest and get profit.
> Or they don't even need to pay back the debt. The debt is left to
> government, which might never pay back the debt, and some get more money
> from government.
> Others' money are diluted.
>
> With voluntary split of bitcoin, dilution of anyone's bitcoin assets won't
> happen.
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
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