djsumdog on Nostr: oh but economic situations do affect birthrates, but it's just the inverse of what ...
oh but economic situations do affect birthrates, but it's just the inverse of what people think! Poor countries with low economic developer have much much higher birthrates. And birthrates tend to go up when higher income countries become more poor.
But financial incentives do not increase birthrates. People with higher educations and higher incomes have fewer children. I am really curious if economic hardships will cause many Europeans with low birthrates to flip, or if they'll continue to decline no matter what.
As far as polymarriages .. I don't think your assessment works for a lot of reasons. I was involved in some polyscenes in far-left places like Seattle and even other countries. I hadn't had a lot of girlfriends (I saw myself as an incel years prior; although I don't anymore), at the time and I thought maybe it would be a way out or way up. People having more options means women might take someone they wouldn't settle for before ... but this really isn't the case ... in fact I learned to be very quiet about even exploring polyamory, because mentioning it did cost me one potential relationship (with someone who was honestly a way better person than a lot of the poly people I met). Even with the increased options, women still tend to hold to their standards.
I think poly/plural stuff will simply lead to a return to Harem style relationships. It may not look like it now, but I do think that's ultimately where it ends.
Furthermore: poly/plural with children?! The change for abuse skyrockets. Even if there isn't abuse, step-parents are often in competition with the children. The story of Cinderella exists for a reason, because even back 1600s, people understood step parents often treated their step children like shit. We don't like to admit it, but the Cinderella effect is still present today.
I have a best friend who married an amazing guy after the father of her kid died. He's know then kid since he was ~3 and has really stepped up and is a full on father to that kid in every meaningful way. But from what I've read and heard from other researchers, this is incredibly rare.
But financial incentives do not increase birthrates. People with higher educations and higher incomes have fewer children. I am really curious if economic hardships will cause many Europeans with low birthrates to flip, or if they'll continue to decline no matter what.
As far as polymarriages .. I don't think your assessment works for a lot of reasons. I was involved in some polyscenes in far-left places like Seattle and even other countries. I hadn't had a lot of girlfriends (I saw myself as an incel years prior; although I don't anymore), at the time and I thought maybe it would be a way out or way up. People having more options means women might take someone they wouldn't settle for before ... but this really isn't the case ... in fact I learned to be very quiet about even exploring polyamory, because mentioning it did cost me one potential relationship (with someone who was honestly a way better person than a lot of the poly people I met). Even with the increased options, women still tend to hold to their standards.
I think poly/plural stuff will simply lead to a return to Harem style relationships. It may not look like it now, but I do think that's ultimately where it ends.
Furthermore: poly/plural with children?! The change for abuse skyrockets. Even if there isn't abuse, step-parents are often in competition with the children. The story of Cinderella exists for a reason, because even back 1600s, people understood step parents often treated their step children like shit. We don't like to admit it, but the Cinderella effect is still present today.
I have a best friend who married an amazing guy after the father of her kid died. He's know then kid since he was ~3 and has really stepped up and is a full on father to that kid in every meaningful way. But from what I've read and heard from other researchers, this is incredibly rare.