LisPi on Nostr: nprofile1q…u8y4k Hera I vaguely remember a few years back Rev seemed to just start ...
nprofile1qy2hwumn8ghj7un9d3shjtnddaehgu3wwp6kyqpqfjd7sfl9yh8xgh4jwwgfhef8hylnrvwrs9rnxraru96atpch2lrshu8y4k (nprofile…8y4k) Hera (nprofile…7prn) I vaguely remember a few years back Rev seemed to just start having increasingly shitty takes with decreasing nuance.
Or I might just be misremembering. He had good points on censorship but the shitty takes just... took away from that a lot.
The third one has some very funny (ridiculous) points. "We don't let them vote, drink, sign contracts", ah yes, because having no representation has worked out *so well* for avoiding ageism and restriction of their rights⸮ (It really hasn't, especially in USA (where they both live) where being young and unsupervised/unaccompanied by adults outside/in-public is criminalized in many places. Reminds me of Saudi Arabia & women's rights there. That's probably not a coincidence.) Plus, the government sees no issue with them dying in the military or to police repression (state violence) before they have the right to vote, so there's a bit of something to ponder there (which decreases legal agency and which doesn't?).
Minors have the right to refuse vaccines even for diseases that *will* fuck them up for the rest of their lives if they catch them (and also the right to get those vaccines if they want them too), so that's a bit weird for her to start suggesting they don't already make medical decisions and cannot understand the long-term consequences of them. Hey, they can get abortions too (unless they live in nightmare states). That can *also* fuck up one's health for the rest of one's life (which might be very short indeed, if they can't get the abortion).
Sure I was pretty anomalous regarding risk aversion, but I wasn't unique in being able to consider long-term consequences at that age.
"vulnerable, impressionable, eager to fit in" to me describes basically all people for the first (if to varying degrees) and most neurotypicals for the last (at any age) so I'm not sure what she means there.
"surgery, that's permanent" major caveat there considering organ cloning and later surgeries. Sure that's not /quite/ available right now (and never will be in USA for anyone who isn't rich unless they fix their healthcare), but it'll be before they've reached half their lifespan.
Pretty sure artificial gametes and artifical wombs (or cloned) will be figured out, so the "might want children" argument also isn't one. Nevermind adoption being an option too.
Bullshit at having one's life figured out by 18~21. One can *delude* oneself into thinking so, sure, but that doesn't make it any more true.
Or I might just be misremembering. He had good points on censorship but the shitty takes just... took away from that a lot.
The third one has some very funny (ridiculous) points. "We don't let them vote, drink, sign contracts", ah yes, because having no representation has worked out *so well* for avoiding ageism and restriction of their rights⸮ (It really hasn't, especially in USA (where they both live) where being young and unsupervised/unaccompanied by adults outside/in-public is criminalized in many places. Reminds me of Saudi Arabia & women's rights there. That's probably not a coincidence.) Plus, the government sees no issue with them dying in the military or to police repression (state violence) before they have the right to vote, so there's a bit of something to ponder there (which decreases legal agency and which doesn't?).
Minors have the right to refuse vaccines even for diseases that *will* fuck them up for the rest of their lives if they catch them (and also the right to get those vaccines if they want them too), so that's a bit weird for her to start suggesting they don't already make medical decisions and cannot understand the long-term consequences of them. Hey, they can get abortions too (unless they live in nightmare states). That can *also* fuck up one's health for the rest of one's life (which might be very short indeed, if they can't get the abortion).
Sure I was pretty anomalous regarding risk aversion, but I wasn't unique in being able to consider long-term consequences at that age.
"vulnerable, impressionable, eager to fit in" to me describes basically all people for the first (if to varying degrees) and most neurotypicals for the last (at any age) so I'm not sure what she means there.
"surgery, that's permanent" major caveat there considering organ cloning and later surgeries. Sure that's not /quite/ available right now (and never will be in USA for anyone who isn't rich unless they fix their healthcare), but it'll be before they've reached half their lifespan.
Pretty sure artificial gametes and artifical wombs (or cloned) will be figured out, so the "might want children" argument also isn't one. Nevermind adoption being an option too.
Bullshit at having one's life figured out by 18~21. One can *delude* oneself into thinking so, sure, but that doesn't make it any more true.