Jeff Garzik [ARCHIVE] on Nostr: 📅 Original date posted:2015-12-16 📝 Original message:On Wed, Dec 16, 2015 at ...
📅 Original date posted:2015-12-16
📝 Original message:On Wed, Dec 16, 2015 at 3:59 PM, Pieter Wuille <pieter.wuille at gmail.com>
wrote:
> On Wed, Dec 16, 2015 at 9:38 PM, Jeff Garzik via bitcoin-dev
> <bitcoin-dev at lists.linuxfoundation.org> wrote:
> > 4.3. Observations on new block economic model
> >
> > SW complicates block economics by creating two separate, supply limited
> > resources.
>
> Not correct. I propose defining the virtual_block_size as base_size +
> witness_size * 0.25, and limiting virtual_block_size to 1M. This
> creates a single variable to optimize for. If accepted, miners are
> incentived to maximize fee per virtual_block_size instead of per size.
>
It is correct. There are two separate sets of economic actors and levels
of contention for each set of space.
That is true regardless of the proposed miner selection algorithm.
> > 5.4. Problem: More complex economic policy, new game theory, new
> bidding
> > structure risks.
> >
> > Splitting blocks into two pieces, each with separate and distinct
> behaviors
> > and resource values, creates two fee markets.
>
> I believe you have misunderstood the proposal in that case.
>
See above. There are two separate and distinct resource velocities and
demand levels in reality. That creates two markets regardless of miner
selection algorithm in the block maker.
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📝 Original message:On Wed, Dec 16, 2015 at 3:59 PM, Pieter Wuille <pieter.wuille at gmail.com>
wrote:
> On Wed, Dec 16, 2015 at 9:38 PM, Jeff Garzik via bitcoin-dev
> <bitcoin-dev at lists.linuxfoundation.org> wrote:
> > 4.3. Observations on new block economic model
> >
> > SW complicates block economics by creating two separate, supply limited
> > resources.
>
> Not correct. I propose defining the virtual_block_size as base_size +
> witness_size * 0.25, and limiting virtual_block_size to 1M. This
> creates a single variable to optimize for. If accepted, miners are
> incentived to maximize fee per virtual_block_size instead of per size.
>
It is correct. There are two separate sets of economic actors and levels
of contention for each set of space.
That is true regardless of the proposed miner selection algorithm.
> > 5.4. Problem: More complex economic policy, new game theory, new
> bidding
> > structure risks.
> >
> > Splitting blocks into two pieces, each with separate and distinct
> behaviors
> > and resource values, creates two fee markets.
>
> I believe you have misunderstood the proposal in that case.
>
See above. There are two separate and distinct resource velocities and
demand levels in reality. That creates two markets regardless of miner
selection algorithm in the block maker.
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