Andreas Schildbach [ARCHIVE] on Nostr: 📅 Original date posted:2014-03-14 📝 Original message:btw. None of Bitcoin ...
📅 Original date posted:2014-03-14
📝 Original message:btw. None of Bitcoin Wallet's users complained about confusion because
of the mBTC switch. In contrast, I get many mails and questions if
exchange rates happen to differ by >10%.
I suspect nobody looks at the Bitcoin price. It's the amount in local
currency that matters to the users.
On 03/13/2014 02:40 PM, Andreas Schildbach wrote:
> Indeed. And users were crying for mBTC. Nobody was asking for µBTC.
>
> I must admit I was not aware if this thread. I just watched other
> wallets and at some point decided its time to switch to mBTC.
>
>
> On 03/13/2014 02:31 PM, Mike Hearn wrote:
>> The standard has become mBTC and that's what was adopted. It's too late
>> to try and sway this on a mailing list thread now.
>>
>>
>> On Thu, Mar 13, 2014 at 2:29 PM, Gary Rowe <g.rowe at froot.co.uk
>> <mailto:g.rowe at froot.co.uk>> wrote:
>>
>> The MultiBit HD view is that this is a locale-sensitive presentation
>> issue. As a result we offer a simple configuration panel giving
>> pretty much every possible combination: icon, m+icon, μ+icon, BTC,
>> mBTC, μBTC, XBT, mXBT, μXBT, sat along with settings for
>> leading/trailing symbol, commas, spaces and points. This allows
>> anyone to customise to meet their own needs beyond the offered default.
>>
>> We apply the NIST guidelines for representation of SI unit symbols
>> (i.e no conversion to native language, no RTL giving icon+m etc).
>>
>> Right now MultiBit HD is configured to use m+icon taken from the
>> Font Awesome icon set. However reading earlier posts it seems
>> that μ+icon is more sensible.
>>
>> Let us know what you'd like.
>>
>> Links:
>> m+icon screenshot: http://imgur.com/a/WCDoG
>> Font Awesome icon: http://fortawesome.github.io/Font-Awesome/icon/btc/
>> NIST SI guidelines: http://physics.nist.gov/Pubs/SP811/sec07.html
>>
>>
>> On 13 March 2014 12:56, Jeff Garzik <jgarzik at bitpay.com
>> <mailto:jgarzik at bitpay.com>> wrote:
>>
>> Resurrecting this topic. Bitcoin Wallet moved to mBTC several weeks
>> ago, which was disappointing -- it sounded like the consensus was
>> uBTC, and moving to uBTC later --which will happen-- may result in
>> additional user confusion, thanks to yet another decimal place
>> transition.
>>
>>
>>
>> On Sun, Nov 17, 2013 at 9:28 PM, Wendell <w at grabhive.com
>> <mailto:w at grabhive.com>> wrote:
>> > We're with uBTC too. Been waiting for the signal to do this,
>> let's do it right after the fee system is improved.
>> >
>> > -wendell
>> >
>> > grabhive.com <http://grabhive.com>; | twitter.com/hivewallet
>> <http://twitter.com/hivewallet>; | gpg: 6C0C9411
>> >
>> > On Nov 15, 2013, at 6:03 AM, Jeff Garzik wrote:
>> >
>> >> Go straight to uBTC. Humans and existing computer systems
>> handle numbers to
>> >> the left of the decimals just fine (HK Dollars, Yen). The
>> opposite is
>> >> untrue (QuickBooks really does not like 3+ decimal places).
>> >
>>
>>
>>
>> --
>> Jeff Garzik
>> Bitcoin core developer and open source evangelist
>> BitPay, Inc. https://bitpay.com/
>>
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📝 Original message:btw. None of Bitcoin Wallet's users complained about confusion because
of the mBTC switch. In contrast, I get many mails and questions if
exchange rates happen to differ by >10%.
I suspect nobody looks at the Bitcoin price. It's the amount in local
currency that matters to the users.
On 03/13/2014 02:40 PM, Andreas Schildbach wrote:
> Indeed. And users were crying for mBTC. Nobody was asking for µBTC.
>
> I must admit I was not aware if this thread. I just watched other
> wallets and at some point decided its time to switch to mBTC.
>
>
> On 03/13/2014 02:31 PM, Mike Hearn wrote:
>> The standard has become mBTC and that's what was adopted. It's too late
>> to try and sway this on a mailing list thread now.
>>
>>
>> On Thu, Mar 13, 2014 at 2:29 PM, Gary Rowe <g.rowe at froot.co.uk
>> <mailto:g.rowe at froot.co.uk>> wrote:
>>
>> The MultiBit HD view is that this is a locale-sensitive presentation
>> issue. As a result we offer a simple configuration panel giving
>> pretty much every possible combination: icon, m+icon, μ+icon, BTC,
>> mBTC, μBTC, XBT, mXBT, μXBT, sat along with settings for
>> leading/trailing symbol, commas, spaces and points. This allows
>> anyone to customise to meet their own needs beyond the offered default.
>>
>> We apply the NIST guidelines for representation of SI unit symbols
>> (i.e no conversion to native language, no RTL giving icon+m etc).
>>
>> Right now MultiBit HD is configured to use m+icon taken from the
>> Font Awesome icon set. However reading earlier posts it seems
>> that μ+icon is more sensible.
>>
>> Let us know what you'd like.
>>
>> Links:
>> m+icon screenshot: http://imgur.com/a/WCDoG
>> Font Awesome icon: http://fortawesome.github.io/Font-Awesome/icon/btc/
>> NIST SI guidelines: http://physics.nist.gov/Pubs/SP811/sec07.html
>>
>>
>> On 13 March 2014 12:56, Jeff Garzik <jgarzik at bitpay.com
>> <mailto:jgarzik at bitpay.com>> wrote:
>>
>> Resurrecting this topic. Bitcoin Wallet moved to mBTC several weeks
>> ago, which was disappointing -- it sounded like the consensus was
>> uBTC, and moving to uBTC later --which will happen-- may result in
>> additional user confusion, thanks to yet another decimal place
>> transition.
>>
>>
>>
>> On Sun, Nov 17, 2013 at 9:28 PM, Wendell <w at grabhive.com
>> <mailto:w at grabhive.com>> wrote:
>> > We're with uBTC too. Been waiting for the signal to do this,
>> let's do it right after the fee system is improved.
>> >
>> > -wendell
>> >
>> > grabhive.com <http://grabhive.com>; | twitter.com/hivewallet
>> <http://twitter.com/hivewallet>; | gpg: 6C0C9411
>> >
>> > On Nov 15, 2013, at 6:03 AM, Jeff Garzik wrote:
>> >
>> >> Go straight to uBTC. Humans and existing computer systems
>> handle numbers to
>> >> the left of the decimals just fine (HK Dollars, Yen). The
>> opposite is
>> >> untrue (QuickBooks really does not like 3+ decimal places).
>> >
>>
>>
>>
>> --
>> Jeff Garzik
>> Bitcoin core developer and open source evangelist
>> BitPay, Inc. https://bitpay.com/
>>
>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------
>> Learn Graph Databases - Download FREE O'Reilly Book
>> "Graph Databases" is the definitive new guide to graph databases
>> and their
>> applications. Written by three acclaimed leaders in the field,
>> this first edition is now available. Download your free book today!
>> http://p.sf.net/sfu/13534_NeoTech
>> _______________________________________________
>> Bitcoin-development mailing list
>> Bitcoin-development at lists.sourceforge.net
>> <mailto:Bitcoin-development at lists.sourceforge.net>
>> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/bitcoin-development
>>
>>
>>
>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------
>> Learn Graph Databases - Download FREE O'Reilly Book
>> "Graph Databases" is the definitive new guide to graph databases and
>> their
>> applications. Written by three acclaimed leaders in the field,
>> this first edition is now available. Download your free book today!
>> http://p.sf.net/sfu/13534_NeoTech
>> _______________________________________________
>> Bitcoin-development mailing list
>> Bitcoin-development at lists.sourceforge.net
>> <mailto:Bitcoin-development at lists.sourceforge.net>
>> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/bitcoin-development
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------
>> Learn Graph Databases - Download FREE O'Reilly Book
>> "Graph Databases" is the definitive new guide to graph databases and their
>> applications. Written by three acclaimed leaders in the field,
>> this first edition is now available. Download your free book today!
>> http://p.sf.net/sfu/13534_NeoTech
>>
>>
>>
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>> Bitcoin-development at lists.sourceforge.net
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>
>
>
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> "Graph Databases" is the definitive new guide to graph databases and their
> applications. Written by three acclaimed leaders in the field,
> this first edition is now available. Download your free book today!
> http://p.sf.net/sfu/13534_NeoTech
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