mleku on Nostr: the idea is that the relay operator has an incentive to combat this kind of ...

the idea is that the relay operator has an incentive to combat this kind of infiltration behaviour by explicitly excluding people who are actively infiltrating and poisoning a group

but at the same time it can even still be possible that another relay operator, even connected in a community relay group, may allow them there and they can have their empty chat that nobody sees their messages because their npub is persona non grata in the place where the users of that chatroom actually congregate, and that's all fine, maybe relay owner of the places where they don't bother to handle this stuff is not so popular with this group but maybe they retain their position because of other groups that are not divided liek this

it's not all or nothing, that's my point, and the idea that users should not have an active role in this is also something i think is unproductive because we are not a faceless corporation selling our users' data to advertisers