🎓 Dr. Freemo :jpf: 🇳🇱 on Nostr: npub1p34kn…jwdy6 Not sure he did create a monopoly Ok then this wasnt even a valid ...
npub1p34kn5su0fzjmsqx7wegqftnd34xr7as808udkxyltcl9zw6jrqqajwdy6 (npub1p34…wdy6) Not sure he did create a monopoly
Ok then this wasnt even a valid point then. although I assume his administration oversaw the creation of a few. But without any doubt he continued the policies for existing monopolies, in the oil and gas industry, cable TV, internet service providers, pharmaceuticals, auto manufacturers, insurance companies (that is a HUGH one under Obama) and literally thousands of other monopolies licensed by the state.
He isnt a dictator, he doesnt get to dictate the state of things. He can, at best, suggest a bill (this is rare), and he can veto bills, thats it.. You act like he can go in and change anything to whatever he wants… it doesnt work that way.
So all we can do if we are honestly evaluate if he is left or right, is not to look at the things he never had a decision to make on at all.. we look on the votes he did make the actions he did. This nonsense of “everything wasnt perfect when he left so he is right wing for not fixing everything” is so beyond absurd… If you have an abortion ban that says you can not remove a dead fetus from a mother, then you do not care about the body autonomy of the mother.
On this I agree, then you dont care.. however that is not the stance of the right as a whole, so you are just blowing hot air on that one. While they are generally against abortion, sure, but whether or not they can abort a dead fetus is not a left or right idea specifically. Google up “abortion ban dead fetus” for examples where this is undeniably true.
I just searched it… what I found was that an overwhelming majority (66%) of the GOP beleive abortion should be legal under extenuating circumstances such as a dead fetus, risk to the mother, rape, etc.
So yea thanks, the search confirmed this is not a majority held property of those on the right. More importantly it wouldnt be objectively either per my above comments. The right doesn’t care about body autonomy.
Seeing as you encouraged me to look it up and the actual data confirmed perfectly the scenario I said and debunked your own… seems this is clearly proven to be false if we are judging them based on their policy stance. If they did, they would support drug use, prostitution, abortion, trans gender surgery, etc.
Well as covered earlier they actually do support drug use, more so then the left anyway. While Biden actively said he would not legalize marijuana Trump said he would… and while Trump didnt fully achieve it he came pretty damn close with the Farm Bill passed.
Abortion we already covered too.
Prostitution I agree is a right-wing policy stance. The GOP, while being mostly right wing, is not synonymous with the right wing. On most issues they pick a right-wing stance on very few they pick a left-wing… this is one of the few the GOP picks a left wing stance by not supporting it. And ‘the left’ doesn’t support those things either. Which to me indicates that ‘the left’ is almost as far right as ‘the right.’
No you mean the DNC doesnt support it. the DNC is not the same as the left even though they as a party are on the left (a person can be on the left and hold some non-left view so long as the aggregate is clearly left). When you go down the policy list of the DNC 98% of it is all on the left, 2% might be right wing ideas…. most of the policy stance however is not a right or left principle and denotes a different metric (like authoritarianism, which is independent of left or right) s for vaccines, I think American history is full of forced vaccines. The 1st forced vaccines were done by George Washington (innoculations). We have had vaccine passports since about WW I. Every school kid in public school has needed one since about 1950, Public health isn’t a left or right issue, and there have always been ways to bypass vaccines.
This doesnt even address what was said… Whether forcing people to take a drug is common and has been done before has absolutely no relevance on if it is a left or right wing principle… To argue its been the normal since forever as some twisted argument that it is left or right wing is just nonsensical and does nothing to advance that point.
Being against forced drugging of people (personal freedom) is a right wing principle… force drugging people for the greater good is a left wing principle. The fact that it has been done before and isnt new has no bearing on that. Repetition is not proof.
I agree, and what you responded to was not me repeating myself, so also not relevant. I had pointed to the fact this was already proven and evidence laid out earlier in the same message.. that is not repetition, that is avoiding repetition and refering you to the original proof instead. When the BLM candidates control even 25% of the government, when the Rent is Too Damn High Party has even NYC, when The ANTIFA party has 100 congressmen, and 30 senators… then their MIGHT be a left wing in this country. Right now we have the theocratic right, and the Senator from a credit card company.
Yea this is also really disconnected from what is being discussed… we arent saying the country is a left-wing country… we are saying Obama and Biden were left wing… huge difference. It amazed me you cant see how poorly your arguing your point… like somehow the entire country having high rent or somethign proves Obama and Biden werent left wing…. i almost sprained my muscled rolling my eyes on this one.
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Ok then this wasnt even a valid point then. although I assume his administration oversaw the creation of a few. But without any doubt he continued the policies for existing monopolies, in the oil and gas industry, cable TV, internet service providers, pharmaceuticals, auto manufacturers, insurance companies (that is a HUGH one under Obama) and literally thousands of other monopolies licensed by the state.
He isnt a dictator, he doesnt get to dictate the state of things. He can, at best, suggest a bill (this is rare), and he can veto bills, thats it.. You act like he can go in and change anything to whatever he wants… it doesnt work that way.
So all we can do if we are honestly evaluate if he is left or right, is not to look at the things he never had a decision to make on at all.. we look on the votes he did make the actions he did. This nonsense of “everything wasnt perfect when he left so he is right wing for not fixing everything” is so beyond absurd… If you have an abortion ban that says you can not remove a dead fetus from a mother, then you do not care about the body autonomy of the mother.
On this I agree, then you dont care.. however that is not the stance of the right as a whole, so you are just blowing hot air on that one. While they are generally against abortion, sure, but whether or not they can abort a dead fetus is not a left or right idea specifically. Google up “abortion ban dead fetus” for examples where this is undeniably true.
I just searched it… what I found was that an overwhelming majority (66%) of the GOP beleive abortion should be legal under extenuating circumstances such as a dead fetus, risk to the mother, rape, etc.
So yea thanks, the search confirmed this is not a majority held property of those on the right. More importantly it wouldnt be objectively either per my above comments. The right doesn’t care about body autonomy.
Seeing as you encouraged me to look it up and the actual data confirmed perfectly the scenario I said and debunked your own… seems this is clearly proven to be false if we are judging them based on their policy stance. If they did, they would support drug use, prostitution, abortion, trans gender surgery, etc.
Well as covered earlier they actually do support drug use, more so then the left anyway. While Biden actively said he would not legalize marijuana Trump said he would… and while Trump didnt fully achieve it he came pretty damn close with the Farm Bill passed.
Abortion we already covered too.
Prostitution I agree is a right-wing policy stance. The GOP, while being mostly right wing, is not synonymous with the right wing. On most issues they pick a right-wing stance on very few they pick a left-wing… this is one of the few the GOP picks a left wing stance by not supporting it. And ‘the left’ doesn’t support those things either. Which to me indicates that ‘the left’ is almost as far right as ‘the right.’
No you mean the DNC doesnt support it. the DNC is not the same as the left even though they as a party are on the left (a person can be on the left and hold some non-left view so long as the aggregate is clearly left). When you go down the policy list of the DNC 98% of it is all on the left, 2% might be right wing ideas…. most of the policy stance however is not a right or left principle and denotes a different metric (like authoritarianism, which is independent of left or right) s for vaccines, I think American history is full of forced vaccines. The 1st forced vaccines were done by George Washington (innoculations). We have had vaccine passports since about WW I. Every school kid in public school has needed one since about 1950, Public health isn’t a left or right issue, and there have always been ways to bypass vaccines.
This doesnt even address what was said… Whether forcing people to take a drug is common and has been done before has absolutely no relevance on if it is a left or right wing principle… To argue its been the normal since forever as some twisted argument that it is left or right wing is just nonsensical and does nothing to advance that point.
Being against forced drugging of people (personal freedom) is a right wing principle… force drugging people for the greater good is a left wing principle. The fact that it has been done before and isnt new has no bearing on that. Repetition is not proof.
I agree, and what you responded to was not me repeating myself, so also not relevant. I had pointed to the fact this was already proven and evidence laid out earlier in the same message.. that is not repetition, that is avoiding repetition and refering you to the original proof instead. When the BLM candidates control even 25% of the government, when the Rent is Too Damn High Party has even NYC, when The ANTIFA party has 100 congressmen, and 30 senators… then their MIGHT be a left wing in this country. Right now we have the theocratic right, and the Senator from a credit card company.
Yea this is also really disconnected from what is being discussed… we arent saying the country is a left-wing country… we are saying Obama and Biden were left wing… huge difference. It amazed me you cant see how poorly your arguing your point… like somehow the entire country having high rent or somethign proves Obama and Biden werent left wing…. i almost sprained my muscled rolling my eyes on this one.
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