waxwing on Nostr: Yes, but this doesn't *necessarily* imply custodial solutions for higher layers. The ...
Yes, but this doesn't *necessarily* imply custodial solutions for higher layers. The question is whether there are crypto techniques that can "latch" verification of something complex, to something that exists within Script. And yes, there are; it's just no one's found really good ways to make use of them, yet. You had ZKCP from Maxwell back in the day, which is pretty much "the" canonical way to do it (transaction unlock contingent on revelation of arbitrary witness) then sort of "indirect" verif of cryptographic claim in e.g. adaptors (recently i posted about how you could even do a kind of DLEQ verification onchain, on the mailing list), then there is the radically different game theoretic approach ("optimistic" i.e. punishment based) with bitvm, which I can see making *some* headway but not being "the" solution. I do agree with your controversial take though; it may be that we *need* to avoid the requirement for changing op codes. I have always intuitively felt that to be true; 2017 was somehow a kind of cut off.
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