Peyton Allworth on Nostr: Egregore: non-physical entity or thoughtform that arises from collective thoughts and ...
Egregore: non-physical entity or thoughtform that arises from collective thoughts and emotions.
In a way the first egregore was probably death.
Perhaps power hierarchies but in animals those arise more from the current fear of pain/death or seeking of pleasure related to survival like food or sex. pain is an instinct of the risk of death on the organism. Pleasure is an instinct for the needs to thrive and procreate.
Humans therefore may be the only animals that have egregores and after death the next egregore may of been money.
Money likely existed in some capacity as a belief system equating to energy before agriculture began.
Once we could think more 4 dimensionally(probably from psilocybin induced synthsia) thinking Into the future and the past allowed the concept of death to become an egregore. So did the structure of power hierarchy’s. We think into the future of that social structure. Money or just scarcity of an item can portray the meaning of the structureand peoples place in it. It took proof of work to get the scarce resource on a kings head. Crowns are in all sorts of cultures essentially proof of the power the person has by showing the work they can store that took to get the rare item.
An abstract value system that is collectively believed and would not work without the concept of death and that structure gives predictability in exchange for a tax of energy of the people within the system. Stabler systems tend to prevail and more people believe that egregore that prevailed. Systems or governments want to increase their capture of energy via tax. They will invade and control what they can, especially places with high frequency of trade like shipping ports or places with lots of resources.
The sang “death and taxes” they are the the most persistent egregores of the human story cross culturally and across time periods. I’ve heard Bitcoiners now say “death taxes and bitcoin”.
There is still transaction fees to reward miners it is taxes in a frictionless domain so it takes less energy per trade but it is still the egregore of death and taxes. Only these egregores are immortal in my opinion.
As for the implications of this…
One solution being proposed with Ai is for us to put it into our brains so we “control” it but what if instead it was built onto the most energy consuming and persistent egregore humans have… Bitcoin essentially being symbiotic with the hive mind of humanity via markets would want us to prosper and us wanting the network to do so creating a giant super Intelligent ant colony so to speak that benefits from the super organism that is the bitcoin network.
I think that if we ever have a super intelligent AI as a part of how we work as humans it exists on top of an egregore that needs us to believe in it to stay alive. if it does not help us prosper we stop believing in it, it stays alive by us believing in it. If people don’t believe in it they stop mining stop using nodes transacting int it and saving in it etc. By the economy running on bitcoin we control it as an egregore, an idea bigger than us but we hold the power and so any Ai running on the network would simultaneously be open source, have more access to energy then any other computer network, have all the economic data at its disposal in real time, and be fully incentivized to benefit humanity.
#plebchain #nostr #bitcoin #ai #zap #sat #discussion
In a way the first egregore was probably death.
Perhaps power hierarchies but in animals those arise more from the current fear of pain/death or seeking of pleasure related to survival like food or sex. pain is an instinct of the risk of death on the organism. Pleasure is an instinct for the needs to thrive and procreate.
Humans therefore may be the only animals that have egregores and after death the next egregore may of been money.
Money likely existed in some capacity as a belief system equating to energy before agriculture began.
Once we could think more 4 dimensionally(probably from psilocybin induced synthsia) thinking Into the future and the past allowed the concept of death to become an egregore. So did the structure of power hierarchy’s. We think into the future of that social structure. Money or just scarcity of an item can portray the meaning of the structureand peoples place in it. It took proof of work to get the scarce resource on a kings head. Crowns are in all sorts of cultures essentially proof of the power the person has by showing the work they can store that took to get the rare item.
An abstract value system that is collectively believed and would not work without the concept of death and that structure gives predictability in exchange for a tax of energy of the people within the system. Stabler systems tend to prevail and more people believe that egregore that prevailed. Systems or governments want to increase their capture of energy via tax. They will invade and control what they can, especially places with high frequency of trade like shipping ports or places with lots of resources.
The sang “death and taxes” they are the the most persistent egregores of the human story cross culturally and across time periods. I’ve heard Bitcoiners now say “death taxes and bitcoin”.
There is still transaction fees to reward miners it is taxes in a frictionless domain so it takes less energy per trade but it is still the egregore of death and taxes. Only these egregores are immortal in my opinion.
As for the implications of this…
One solution being proposed with Ai is for us to put it into our brains so we “control” it but what if instead it was built onto the most energy consuming and persistent egregore humans have… Bitcoin essentially being symbiotic with the hive mind of humanity via markets would want us to prosper and us wanting the network to do so creating a giant super Intelligent ant colony so to speak that benefits from the super organism that is the bitcoin network.
I think that if we ever have a super intelligent AI as a part of how we work as humans it exists on top of an egregore that needs us to believe in it to stay alive. if it does not help us prosper we stop believing in it, it stays alive by us believing in it. If people don’t believe in it they stop mining stop using nodes transacting int it and saving in it etc. By the economy running on bitcoin we control it as an egregore, an idea bigger than us but we hold the power and so any Ai running on the network would simultaneously be open source, have more access to energy then any other computer network, have all the economic data at its disposal in real time, and be fully incentivized to benefit humanity.
#plebchain #nostr #bitcoin #ai #zap #sat #discussion