SaberhagenTheNameless on Nostr: This whole back and forth is so stupid. Super is lying by omission and it's more ...
This whole back and forth is so stupid. Super is lying by omission and it's more nuanced than hes presenting it.
The first 3 points are undeterministic edge cases that only apply to senders.
Receipients are unlinkable to the original address and only appear on the blockchain once meaning they could be any Monero user that exists.
Amounts are completely hidden - hes being purposely ambiguous referring to miner fees.
Addtionally, because of it's complexity, how many are using Lightning the way maybe you and Super use it? Almost all of them are using custodial lightning wallets with no privacy from the custodian, hackers, and any governments that compels them to save and give them that info.
The first 3 points are undeterministic edge cases that only apply to senders.
Receipients are unlinkable to the original address and only appear on the blockchain once meaning they could be any Monero user that exists.
Amounts are completely hidden - hes being purposely ambiguous referring to miner fees.
Addtionally, because of it's complexity, how many are using Lightning the way maybe you and Super use it? Almost all of them are using custodial lightning wallets with no privacy from the custodian, hackers, and any governments that compels them to save and give them that info.
quoting nevent1q…gaty"Monero doesn’t encrypt any of those things. It perfectly hides the amount, it perfectly hides the recipient (more akin to hashing than encryption), and it obscures the sender - but in future it will perfectly hide the sender too.
Anything encrypted can be decrypted, and Monero simply doesn’t encrypt anything because its users value privacy and can’t take that risk."
https://xcancel.com/fluffypony/status/1824433941459157115
quoting nevent1q…sgcl"Amount and receiver are ZK. Sender is ZK within their ring. That ring is a subset of all outputs."
https://x.com/kayabaNerve/status/1832145837847409036