Tamas Blummer [ARCHIVE] on Nostr: 📅 Original date posted:2015-01-20 📝 Original message:I am not a lawyer, just ...
📅 Original date posted:2015-01-20
📝 Original message:I am not a lawyer, just thinking loud.
I think that technology is a strong argument before court, but I suspect that it is just that, as of now.
Tamas Blummer
On Jan 20, 2015, at 6:47 PM, Matt Whitlock <bip at mattwhitlock.name> wrote:
> On Tuesday, 20 January 2015, at 6:44 pm, Tamas Blummer wrote:
>> Knowing the private key and owning the linked coins is not necessarily the same in front of a court.
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>> At least in german law there is a difference between ‘Eigentum' means ownership and ‘Besitz’ means ability to deal with it.
>> Being able to deal with an asset does not make you the owner.
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> So what we're telling the newbies in /r/bitcoin is plain wrong. Bitcoins *do* have an owner independent from the parties who have access to the private keys that control their disposition. That's pretty difficult to reconcile from a technological perspective.
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📝 Original message:I am not a lawyer, just thinking loud.
I think that technology is a strong argument before court, but I suspect that it is just that, as of now.
Tamas Blummer
On Jan 20, 2015, at 6:47 PM, Matt Whitlock <bip at mattwhitlock.name> wrote:
> On Tuesday, 20 January 2015, at 6:44 pm, Tamas Blummer wrote:
>> Knowing the private key and owning the linked coins is not necessarily the same in front of a court.
>>
>> At least in german law there is a difference between ‘Eigentum' means ownership and ‘Besitz’ means ability to deal with it.
>> Being able to deal with an asset does not make you the owner.
>
> So what we're telling the newbies in /r/bitcoin is plain wrong. Bitcoins *do* have an owner independent from the parties who have access to the private keys that control their disposition. That's pretty difficult to reconcile from a technological perspective.
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