mikedilger on Nostr: I noticed something yesterday. I noticed that in several pictures of dead bodies that ...
I noticed something yesterday. I noticed that in several pictures of dead bodies that were killed by Hamas, the bodies were all men. And I noticed videos of women being held alive. And I wondered "are Hamas really indiscriminately killing women and children and beheading children?" So I started searching for all the video and photo evidence. Someone pointed me to Ben Shapiro's podcasts which have been showing lots of these as a way to prove who Hamas is, so I looked through all of that. Far too much time, and really hard to watch all that. But I felt it was important (I kept the sound off - I didn't want to be influenced by his claims).
What I discovered is that there isn't any hard video evidence of women or children being killed by Hamas. There are two pieces of evidence that maybe they were, but not conclusive, and I'll describe those below.
I not defending the killing of civilians. But in truth, I cannot know if the plain clothed men who were killed were civilians or not, all I can tell is that they were in plain clothes. So it is possible Hamas are engaging in war according to the rules of war. I doubt it's quite that clean, I think maybe they are killing civilian men, but I won't pass judgement without solid evidence.
The statement "when people tell you who they are, believe them" is not evidence. People say all kinds of dumb shit that they don't back up.
We never saw evidence of the beheaded babies.
We never saw bodies of the rave dancers. I saw a picture that claimed to be, that looked like clothing layed out, not even bodies just clothing, and another of busted up cars, and a video of someone paragliding in. But not killing, no bodies, not even a report of which sex was killed.
Lots of people saying things, making claims, is not evidence. I have to ignore all the stories.
The woman in the truck with a fair amount of skin showing and blood, and a leg bent at an odd angle: she does not seem like she was killed by being shot, because to bend the leg like that takes a lot of mechanical force. The most likely thing to cause such force is a vehicle. So she was involved in some automobile accident. And why would they take her somewhere in a truck? Why not just leave her dead body on the ground? Maybe they were taking her to a hospital/morgue. Inconclusive that they killed her, because normally they would have just shot her.
Why do we have no videos of dead women or children who were clearly shot? There are plenty of men who were clearly shot.
Beheading a dead man ... I'm not bothered by that. Once someone is dead, they're just meat. I'm all too familiar with that as I slaughter sheep on my farm. It's the killing that I'm bothered by, not what people do with the dead meat.
The other evidence was 4 women being escorted somewhere. Then a second video of the four women laying down near a path by a beach or other sandy area. They demonstrated by clothing colors that they were the same four women. There was no video connecting these two, where the women were allegedly killed. The second video does not show any blood or bullet wounds, and the women appear to be lying in normal poses. It is possible that they were "released" and the soldiers had them lie face down and count to one-thousand, to make sure the soldiers weren't followed by these women.
I don't know the truth of any of this, but I thought it was interesting that I can't find clear hard evidence of the claims.
On the other side, there is lots of videos of burnt live babies, burnt dead babies, etc, and carpet bombing that clearly is killing civilians.
What I discovered is that there isn't any hard video evidence of women or children being killed by Hamas. There are two pieces of evidence that maybe they were, but not conclusive, and I'll describe those below.
I not defending the killing of civilians. But in truth, I cannot know if the plain clothed men who were killed were civilians or not, all I can tell is that they were in plain clothes. So it is possible Hamas are engaging in war according to the rules of war. I doubt it's quite that clean, I think maybe they are killing civilian men, but I won't pass judgement without solid evidence.
The statement "when people tell you who they are, believe them" is not evidence. People say all kinds of dumb shit that they don't back up.
We never saw evidence of the beheaded babies.
We never saw bodies of the rave dancers. I saw a picture that claimed to be, that looked like clothing layed out, not even bodies just clothing, and another of busted up cars, and a video of someone paragliding in. But not killing, no bodies, not even a report of which sex was killed.
Lots of people saying things, making claims, is not evidence. I have to ignore all the stories.
The woman in the truck with a fair amount of skin showing and blood, and a leg bent at an odd angle: she does not seem like she was killed by being shot, because to bend the leg like that takes a lot of mechanical force. The most likely thing to cause such force is a vehicle. So she was involved in some automobile accident. And why would they take her somewhere in a truck? Why not just leave her dead body on the ground? Maybe they were taking her to a hospital/morgue. Inconclusive that they killed her, because normally they would have just shot her.
Why do we have no videos of dead women or children who were clearly shot? There are plenty of men who were clearly shot.
Beheading a dead man ... I'm not bothered by that. Once someone is dead, they're just meat. I'm all too familiar with that as I slaughter sheep on my farm. It's the killing that I'm bothered by, not what people do with the dead meat.
The other evidence was 4 women being escorted somewhere. Then a second video of the four women laying down near a path by a beach or other sandy area. They demonstrated by clothing colors that they were the same four women. There was no video connecting these two, where the women were allegedly killed. The second video does not show any blood or bullet wounds, and the women appear to be lying in normal poses. It is possible that they were "released" and the soldiers had them lie face down and count to one-thousand, to make sure the soldiers weren't followed by these women.
I don't know the truth of any of this, but I thought it was interesting that I can't find clear hard evidence of the claims.
On the other side, there is lots of videos of burnt live babies, burnt dead babies, etc, and carpet bombing that clearly is killing civilians.