final [GrapheneOS] 📱👁️‍🗨️ on Nostr: Unfortunately the security / privacy campaigning directly conflict against the ...

Unfortunately the security / privacy campaigning directly conflict against the developers and people working in the field. Many people who lead the campaign also don't advocate the right information. When people do care it's often they've done it incorrectly or been fed baseless accusations and scaremongering meant to slowly wear readers down into buying dubious products and software.

Even if people won't care about privacy yet, we'll be here with the work when they start to. There are people who dismissed our work or used something else before coming here, and some of those people are influential and provide noticeable public support now.

I don't have hard feelings towards people who either don't care or don't like certain projects or even GrapheneOS for whatever reason. If people get in trouble because their narrow-minded attitude thought they were untouchable then it's on them. They will be lessons for others to not follow their footsteps.

We win by being better than others.

quoting nevent1q…cnkk

You can't always reach everyone. But, that is okay. The best way we can continue our growth is by evidently being better. What the project has done improved mobile security systematically and has helped the broader landscape of software too from the upstream contributions, bounties and innovations made. The more successes to make, the more attention will come.

We would still recommend an iPhone above the hundreds of insecure devices out there. I personally find it is a shame that their services are so deeply ingrained to their product, but, hopefully legislation bites their hand. Although, it would make sense a company with such a huge budget and likely extremely talented research teams definitely would have the security posture.

There are sadly many products marketed as private and secure while in reality being less than simply using an iPhone/Macbook. That's not to say that Apple does a great job but rather this space is ripe with scammers and charlatans selling misleading products or promoting problematic approaches and software. As for real companies, they always either miss the mark, do something that makes improving the platform harder or they simply do not care.

Privacy and security is an extremely easy thing to sell and mislead people into believing they have to buy. Companies who've talked down on us included people reselling insecure phones with flawed software like device managers with a trivially bypassable duress feature. There's no point in reasoning with fraudsters.

There will always be more. People find GrapheneOS and use it from what they find. The ones who use it will hopefully always be the ones who want it and that's what matters.