Super Testnet on Nostr: >I don't understand this and need someone to explain it like I'm 10 I will explain it ...
>I don't understand this and need someone to explain it like I'm 10
I will explain it to you like you're an adult: it's similar to how onion messaging works. You send an encrypted message to party K, who finds inside an encrypted message for party L. He sends it to party M, who finds an encrypted message inside for party N. And so on. No party knows who the sender is except the sender themselves.
>Starting address and amount ->hops to node still same transaction nothing is hidden
Lots of stuff is hidden: the routing node does not know who the sender or recipient is, nor if the amount is the full amount, a partial amount, or a decoy (aka a payment probe).
-> next node same transaction two nodes now hiding start point
It's not just that "two nodes" are hiding the starting point; the first routing node does not know if the previous person is the sender or just another routing node. So from his perspective there might be *any number* of nodes hiding the starting point. What hides the starting point is that you can't tell a starting point from another routing node.
> To me even though the node hops and the start point maybe hidden the BTC is still able to be traced back to the original address that started the transaction right?
No. Just like with onion messaging, routing nodes can ask one another if they routed the payment, and maybe some will collude and reply "yes, I helped route the payment." But even if all routing nodes collude, they can only ask the sender "Did you help route the payment?" and if he does not reply, they don't know if he was the sender or just a routing node who refuses to collude.
I will explain it to you like you're an adult: it's similar to how onion messaging works. You send an encrypted message to party K, who finds inside an encrypted message for party L. He sends it to party M, who finds an encrypted message inside for party N. And so on. No party knows who the sender is except the sender themselves.
>Starting address and amount ->hops to node still same transaction nothing is hidden
Lots of stuff is hidden: the routing node does not know who the sender or recipient is, nor if the amount is the full amount, a partial amount, or a decoy (aka a payment probe).
-> next node same transaction two nodes now hiding start point
It's not just that "two nodes" are hiding the starting point; the first routing node does not know if the previous person is the sender or just another routing node. So from his perspective there might be *any number* of nodes hiding the starting point. What hides the starting point is that you can't tell a starting point from another routing node.
> To me even though the node hops and the start point maybe hidden the BTC is still able to be traced back to the original address that started the transaction right?
No. Just like with onion messaging, routing nodes can ask one another if they routed the payment, and maybe some will collude and reply "yes, I helped route the payment." But even if all routing nodes collude, they can only ask the sender "Did you help route the payment?" and if he does not reply, they don't know if he was the sender or just a routing node who refuses to collude.