Quoth The Raven on Nostr: The problem of course for a relativist or materialist is that they must prove that ...

The problem of course for a relativist or materialist is that they must prove that natural laws work and can be relied upon while themselves relying solely upon on hardware and software (brain body and mind) which is in itself dictated by natural laws that it cannot prove to be correct or verify without creating the self referential problem all over again.

There is no escape from this Ouroborus.