jyn_urso on Nostr: I admit I am a degrowther but I am starting to think that what I consider degrowth is ...
I admit I am a degrowther but I am starting to think that what I consider degrowth is maybe not what many other degrowthers see it to mean. There is a lot of ignorance around energy and technology the is pervasive in aspects of the degrowth/climate movement that is also mixed with doomer vibes.
1) As Baidrillard pointed out, we cannot escape capitalism as thus we cannot escape the technological advances that we have created as a result. But what we can do, imo, is find the communist, find the anarchist, elements that exist simultaneously in contradiction and build on these aspects to find a way out. The whole concept of the falling rate of profit (which Kliman argues is temporal and thus why many misunderstand it including Marxists) is one that can be also interpreted through creative destruction. When taken to its limit, we can see where a post-work, degrowth world could actually arise.
I say this with respect, but it angers me to see rejection rather than embrace of the full spectrum of possibilities as the only way forward for so many of my colleagues in the climate movement.
Lastly, Israel proved you can’t escape through low-fi tech to avoid surveillance and attacks. So QED.
https://x.com/aashisjo/status/1836411875137065027
1) As Baidrillard pointed out, we cannot escape capitalism as thus we cannot escape the technological advances that we have created as a result. But what we can do, imo, is find the communist, find the anarchist, elements that exist simultaneously in contradiction and build on these aspects to find a way out. The whole concept of the falling rate of profit (which Kliman argues is temporal and thus why many misunderstand it including Marxists) is one that can be also interpreted through creative destruction. When taken to its limit, we can see where a post-work, degrowth world could actually arise.
I say this with respect, but it angers me to see rejection rather than embrace of the full spectrum of possibilities as the only way forward for so many of my colleagues in the climate movement.
Lastly, Israel proved you can’t escape through low-fi tech to avoid surveillance and attacks. So QED.
https://x.com/aashisjo/status/1836411875137065027