Jeff Garzik [ARCHIVE] on Nostr: 📅 Original date posted:2012-05-16 📝 Original message:On Wed, May 16, 2012 at ...
📅 Original date posted:2012-05-16
📝 Original message:On Wed, May 16, 2012 at 12:46 PM, Mike Hearn <mike at plan99.net> wrote:
> Thanks for getting this started.
>
> With regards to the specific proposal, I don't believe it's the best option
> and still plan to eventually implement the original design outlined more
> than a year ago in this thread:
>
> https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=7972.msg116285#msg116285
>
> Namely that you use a new protocol command to set a Bloom filter on a
> connection. Only transactions matching that filter will appear in relayed
> inventory. Blocks that are requested will arrive as a header plus
> transaction/merkle branch pairs. Clients are expected to maintain and track
> the block chain as per usual, but instead of downloading the whole chain and
> then dropping the irrelevant transactions, that filtering is done server
> side. By strengthening or weakening the Bloom filters you can choose your
> preferred point on the privacy/bandwidth-usage spectrum. It is a fairly
> simple change to the Satoshi and BitcoinJ codebases but still allows clients
> to gain confidence in their balance by examining the chain, and this is true
> even in the presence of a hijacked internet connection (you can't trust
> pending transactions that way, but you can still trust confirmed
> transactions).
Makes sense.
In an idealized model of a client as a set of private keys, they will
want to (a) notice new activity on these keys, (b) notice increased
confidence on existing transactions with those keys [confirmations],
and (c) be able to submit to the network new transactions. Your
proposal covers those bases, I believe.
--
Jeff Garzik
exMULTI, Inc.
jgarzik at exmulti.com
📝 Original message:On Wed, May 16, 2012 at 12:46 PM, Mike Hearn <mike at plan99.net> wrote:
> Thanks for getting this started.
>
> With regards to the specific proposal, I don't believe it's the best option
> and still plan to eventually implement the original design outlined more
> than a year ago in this thread:
>
> https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=7972.msg116285#msg116285
>
> Namely that you use a new protocol command to set a Bloom filter on a
> connection. Only transactions matching that filter will appear in relayed
> inventory. Blocks that are requested will arrive as a header plus
> transaction/merkle branch pairs. Clients are expected to maintain and track
> the block chain as per usual, but instead of downloading the whole chain and
> then dropping the irrelevant transactions, that filtering is done server
> side. By strengthening or weakening the Bloom filters you can choose your
> preferred point on the privacy/bandwidth-usage spectrum. It is a fairly
> simple change to the Satoshi and BitcoinJ codebases but still allows clients
> to gain confidence in their balance by examining the chain, and this is true
> even in the presence of a hijacked internet connection (you can't trust
> pending transactions that way, but you can still trust confirmed
> transactions).
Makes sense.
In an idealized model of a client as a set of private keys, they will
want to (a) notice new activity on these keys, (b) notice increased
confidence on existing transactions with those keys [confirmations],
and (c) be able to submit to the network new transactions. Your
proposal covers those bases, I believe.
--
Jeff Garzik
exMULTI, Inc.
jgarzik at exmulti.com