Tadano on Nostr: ✝️Shalltear🦇Stan💒 One again these works spoken of are works of the law, not ...
✝️Shalltear🦇Stan💒 (npub1prs…mdml) One again these works spoken of are works of the law, not works of the spirit (i.e. God's work done through us). In fact Romans 4:13-15 explicitly elaborate on the law.
As it is written, it is by faith in Christ we are saved, and works of the law do not justify us. Furthermore, Galatians 5:16-24 elaborates on the fruits of the spirit, Philippians 1:6 states what good works God started in us shall be completed by the day of Christ and Christ himself says that fruitless branches of he the true vine shall be cut off in John 15:2. From these we reach the conclusion stated James 2:18: with faith comes visible signs, those being works/fruits of the holy spirit working through us (not of our own action) and a faith absent of these signs is dead.
As for cooperation with grace, you flippantly dismiss it as absurd yet you do not even elaborate on what it is. So, I decided to look into it and found this from a joint declaration by the Catholic and Lutheran Churches on the doctrine of justification which summarizes it nicely: 20. When Catholics say that persons “cooperate” in preparing for and ac- cepting justification by consenting to God’s justifying action, they see such personal consent as itself an effect of grace, not as an action arising from innate human abilities. Once again, God's works in us.
Ironic how you slander Catholics as either ignoramuses or not understanding scripture despite your lack of understanding leaking through every word you wrote. You did not even attempt to engage with my mention of James 2:18 nor my mention the distinction between works of law and spirit; your response bordered on being a non-sequitur. Please cease rendering yourself a pillock.
As it is written, it is by faith in Christ we are saved, and works of the law do not justify us. Furthermore, Galatians 5:16-24 elaborates on the fruits of the spirit, Philippians 1:6 states what good works God started in us shall be completed by the day of Christ and Christ himself says that fruitless branches of he the true vine shall be cut off in John 15:2. From these we reach the conclusion stated James 2:18: with faith comes visible signs, those being works/fruits of the holy spirit working through us (not of our own action) and a faith absent of these signs is dead.
As for cooperation with grace, you flippantly dismiss it as absurd yet you do not even elaborate on what it is. So, I decided to look into it and found this from a joint declaration by the Catholic and Lutheran Churches on the doctrine of justification which summarizes it nicely: 20. When Catholics say that persons “cooperate” in preparing for and ac- cepting justification by consenting to God’s justifying action, they see such personal consent as itself an effect of grace, not as an action arising from innate human abilities. Once again, God's works in us.
Ironic how you slander Catholics as either ignoramuses or not understanding scripture despite your lack of understanding leaking through every word you wrote. You did not even attempt to engage with my mention of James 2:18 nor my mention the distinction between works of law and spirit; your response bordered on being a non-sequitur. Please cease rendering yourself a pillock.