Karl-Johan Alm [ARCHIVE] on Nostr: 📅 Original date posted:2018-09-12 📝 Original message:Greetings, (The quoted ...
📅 Original date posted:2018-09-12
📝 Original message:Greetings,
(The quoted proposal is already outdated, and I recommend you check
out the up to date formatted version here:
https://github.com/kallewoof/bips/blob/bip-generic-signmessage/bip-0322.mediawiki
The PR with comments is here: https://github.com/bitcoin/bips/pull/725)
A big part of the feedback boils down to conflicts of opinion related
to whether or not proofs should be given as transactions or not.
I am attempting to write down the pros and cons below, some of which
are contradictory/complementary based on multiple people's opinions.
Pros of using transaction format:
1. works out of the box with existing HSM:s, some of which may be
purposefully built to not be upgradable for security reasons (unless
sighash modified; see below)
2. easier to incorporate into existing software
3. forward compatible with bitcoin extensions (e.g. mimblewimble,
confidential transactions, etc)
4. HSM:s *should* be blind to whether or not a transaction or a
message or proof of funds is being signed (see Con #3)
Cons:
1. dangerous if challenger is able to convince prover to sign a
message that corresponds to an actual transaction; modifying sighash
is suggested, but defeats pro #1 above; can define in tx to have txin
as sighash to guarantee invalid on chain
2. unupgraded software are unable to make distinction between message
sign and transaction sign
3. if HSM:s do not support it and do not support upgrading, this is by
design, and message signing should be explicitly supported or not be
possible (see Pro #4)
4. severely cripples UX for hardware wallets that actually show the
contents of the transaction during the signing
If anyone has comments on this, it would be tremendously appreciated.
There is also a divided opinion on whether an "OP_MESSAGEONLY" opcode
should be introduced, but I'd like to address the above first, if
possible.
On Tue, Sep 11, 2018 at 1:41 PM Karl-Johan Alm
<karljohan-alm at garage.co.jp> wrote:
>
> Hi.
>
> [note: BIP number was assigned to PR before this email was sent; I did
> not self-assign the BIP number]
>
> Below is a proposal to extend the existing sign/verifymessage format
> to a more generalized variant relying on the script verification
> mechanism in Bitcoin itself for message signing/verification, based on
> the original discussion
> (https://lists.linuxfoundation.org/pipermail/bitcoin-dev/2018-March/015818.html)
> .
>
> PR is here: https://github.com/bitcoin/bips/pull/725
>
> A formatted version of this text can be seen here:
> https://github.com/kallewoof/bips/blob/bip-generic-signmessage/bip-generic-signmessage.mediawiki
>
> Note: I am not sure how to best deal with CLTV/CSV stuff here, ultimately.
>
> Note 2: I have received suggestions from several people to use a
> Bitcoin transaction instead. If someone could explain why this is
> beneficial, it would be very helpful. I'm not against it, just feels
> like the whole transaction part is unnecessary complexity/overhead.
>
> ---
> <pre>
> BIP: 322
> Layer: Applications
> Title: Generic Signed Message Format
> Author: Karl-Johan Alm <karljohan-alm at garage.co.jp>
> Comments-Summary: No comments yet.
> Comments-URI: https://github.com/bitcoin/bips/wiki/Comments:BIP-0322
> Status: Draft
> Type: Standards Track
> Created: 2018-09-10
> License: CC0-1.0
> </pre>
>
> == Abstract ==
>
> A standard for interoperable generic signed messages based on the
> Bitcoin Script format.
>
> == Motivation ==
>
> The current message signing standard only works for P2PKH (1...)
> addresses. By extending it to use a Bitcoin Script based approach, it
> could be made more generic without causing a too big burden on
> implementers, who most likely have access to Bitcoin Script
> interpreters already.
>
> == Specification ==
>
> A new structure <code>SignatureProof</code> is added, which is a
> simple serializable scriptSig & witnessProgram container.
>
> Two actions "Sign" and "Verify" are defined.
>
> === SignatureProof container ===
>
> {|class="wikitable" style="text-align: center;"
> |-
> !Type
> !Length
> !Name
> !Comment
> |-
> |Uint32||4||flags||standard flags (1-to-1 with standard flags in Bitcoin Core)
> |-
> |VarInt||1-8||msglen||Number of bytes in message string, excluding NUL
> termination
> |-
> |Char*||[msglen]||msg||The message being signed for all subjects,
> excluding NUL termination
> |-
> |Uint8||1||entries||Number of proof entries<ref><strong>Why support
> multiple proofs?</strong> In particular with proof of funds, it is
> non-trivial to check a large number of individual proofs (one per
> UTXO) for duplicates. Software could be written to do so, but it seems
> more efficient to build this check into the specification
> itself.</ref>
> |}
>
> The above is followed by [entries] number of signature entries:
>
> {|class="wikitable" style="text-align: center;"
> |-
> !Type
> !Length
> !Name
> !Comment
> |-
> |VarInt||1-8||scriptsiglen||Number of bytes in scriptSig data
> |-
> |Uint8*||[scriptsiglen]||scriptsig||ScriptSig data
> |-
> |VarInt||1-8||witlen||Number of bytes in witness program data
> |-
> |Uint8*||[witlen]||wit||Witness program
> |}
>
> In some cases, the scriptsig may be empty (scriptsiglen=0).
>
> === Signing ===
>
> The "Sign" action takes as input a scriptPubKey and a message (e.g.
> "hello world"). It succeeds or fails.
>
> # FAIL if scriptPubKey already exists in scriptPubKeys set, otherwise
> insert it<ref><strong>Why track duplicates?</strong> Because a 3-entry
> proof is not proving 3 scriptPubKeys unless they are all distinct, or
> unless they are proving different UTXO:s (see Future Extensions)</ref>
> # Derive the private key privkey for the scriptPubKey, or FAIL
> # Define the message pre-image as the sequence "Bitcoin Message:"
> concatenated with the message, encoded in UTF-8 using Normalization
> Form Compatibility Decomposition (NFKD)
> # Let sighash = sha256(sha256(scriptPubKey || pre-image))
> # Generate a signature sig with privkey=privkey, sighash=sighash
>
> Repeat the above operation for each scriptPubKey, retaining the
> scriptPubKeys set. As noted, if the same scriptPubKey appears more
> than once, the sign operation must fail.
>
> === Verifying ===
>
> The "Verify" action takes as input a standard flags value, a
> scriptPubKey, a message, a script sig, and a witness program.
> It emits one of INCONCLUSIVE, VALID, INVALID, or ERROR.
>
> # Return ERROR if scriptPubKey already exists in scriptPubKeys set,
> otherwise insert it
> # If one or more of the standard flags are unknown, return INCONCLUSIVE
> # Define the message pre-image as the sequence "Bitcoin Message:"
> concatenated with the message, encoded in UTF-8 using Normalization
> Form Compatibility Decomposition (NFKD).
> # Let sighash = sha256(sha256(scriptPubKey || pre-image))
> # Verify Script with flags=standard flags, scriptSig=script sig,
> scriptPubKey=scriptPubKey, witness=witness program, and
> sighash=sighash
> # Return VALID if verify succeeds, otherwise return INVALID
>
> Repeat the above operation for each scriptPubKey, retaining the
> scriptPubKeys set. As noted, if the same scriptPubKey appears more
> than once, the verify operation must fail with an ERROR.
>
> * If a verification call returns ERROR or INVALID, return ERROR or
> INVALID immediately, ignoring as yet unverified entries.
> * After all verifications complete, return INCONCLUSIVE if any
> verification call returned INCONCLUSIVE.
> * Return VALID if and only if every verification returned VALID.
>
> == Future Extensions ==
>
> === Proof of Funds ===
>
> The specification can be extended to handle proof of funds in the
> following manner:
>
> * Let the message be prefixed with "POF:", followed by a
> newline-terminated string<ref><strong>Why not just the UTXO
> data?</strong> We want the verifier to be able to challenge the prover
> with a custom message to sign, or anyone can reuse the POF proof for a
> set of UTXO:s once they have seen it, and the funds have not yet been
> spent</ref>, followed by [entries] series of hex-encoded transaction
> ID:vout pairs, separated by a single space (" ") character
> * Fail if the number of txid:vout pairs is not exactly equal to [entries]
> * Retain the message as is for all sighash operations (i.e. all sign
> and verify operations should sign and verify the entire list of
> UTXO:s)<ref><strong>Why use same sighash?</strong> The prover is
> proving that they have a set of UTXO:s at their disposal. Taking a
> sub-set of the proofs and turning them into a new proof should not be
> valid.</ref>
> * Add a verification that the txid/vout is a valid UTXO according to a
> synced up Bitcoin node, and that its corresponding scriptPubKey
> matches the one given by the proof. Return ERROR if scriptPubKey
> mismatch, and SPENT error if spent
> * Extend the scriptPubKeys set check to only fail if the same
> scriptPubKey and proof-of-funds txid/vout combination is encountered
>
> == Compatibility ==
>
> This specification is not backwards compatible with the legacy
> signmessage/verifymessage specification. However, legacy addresses
> (1...) may be used in this implementation without any problems.
>
> == Rationale ==
>
> <references/>
>
> == Reference implementation ==
>
> To do.
>
> == Acknowledgements ==
>
> TODO
>
> == References ==
>
> # Original mailing list thread:
> https://lists.linuxfoundation.org/pipermail/bitcoin-dev/2018-March/015818.html
>
> == Copyright ==
>
> This document is licensed under the Creative Commons CC0 1.0 Universal license.
> ---
>
> -Kalle.
📝 Original message:Greetings,
(The quoted proposal is already outdated, and I recommend you check
out the up to date formatted version here:
https://github.com/kallewoof/bips/blob/bip-generic-signmessage/bip-0322.mediawiki
The PR with comments is here: https://github.com/bitcoin/bips/pull/725)
A big part of the feedback boils down to conflicts of opinion related
to whether or not proofs should be given as transactions or not.
I am attempting to write down the pros and cons below, some of which
are contradictory/complementary based on multiple people's opinions.
Pros of using transaction format:
1. works out of the box with existing HSM:s, some of which may be
purposefully built to not be upgradable for security reasons (unless
sighash modified; see below)
2. easier to incorporate into existing software
3. forward compatible with bitcoin extensions (e.g. mimblewimble,
confidential transactions, etc)
4. HSM:s *should* be blind to whether or not a transaction or a
message or proof of funds is being signed (see Con #3)
Cons:
1. dangerous if challenger is able to convince prover to sign a
message that corresponds to an actual transaction; modifying sighash
is suggested, but defeats pro #1 above; can define in tx to have txin
as sighash to guarantee invalid on chain
2. unupgraded software are unable to make distinction between message
sign and transaction sign
3. if HSM:s do not support it and do not support upgrading, this is by
design, and message signing should be explicitly supported or not be
possible (see Pro #4)
4. severely cripples UX for hardware wallets that actually show the
contents of the transaction during the signing
If anyone has comments on this, it would be tremendously appreciated.
There is also a divided opinion on whether an "OP_MESSAGEONLY" opcode
should be introduced, but I'd like to address the above first, if
possible.
On Tue, Sep 11, 2018 at 1:41 PM Karl-Johan Alm
<karljohan-alm at garage.co.jp> wrote:
>
> Hi.
>
> [note: BIP number was assigned to PR before this email was sent; I did
> not self-assign the BIP number]
>
> Below is a proposal to extend the existing sign/verifymessage format
> to a more generalized variant relying on the script verification
> mechanism in Bitcoin itself for message signing/verification, based on
> the original discussion
> (https://lists.linuxfoundation.org/pipermail/bitcoin-dev/2018-March/015818.html)
> .
>
> PR is here: https://github.com/bitcoin/bips/pull/725
>
> A formatted version of this text can be seen here:
> https://github.com/kallewoof/bips/blob/bip-generic-signmessage/bip-generic-signmessage.mediawiki
>
> Note: I am not sure how to best deal with CLTV/CSV stuff here, ultimately.
>
> Note 2: I have received suggestions from several people to use a
> Bitcoin transaction instead. If someone could explain why this is
> beneficial, it would be very helpful. I'm not against it, just feels
> like the whole transaction part is unnecessary complexity/overhead.
>
> ---
> <pre>
> BIP: 322
> Layer: Applications
> Title: Generic Signed Message Format
> Author: Karl-Johan Alm <karljohan-alm at garage.co.jp>
> Comments-Summary: No comments yet.
> Comments-URI: https://github.com/bitcoin/bips/wiki/Comments:BIP-0322
> Status: Draft
> Type: Standards Track
> Created: 2018-09-10
> License: CC0-1.0
> </pre>
>
> == Abstract ==
>
> A standard for interoperable generic signed messages based on the
> Bitcoin Script format.
>
> == Motivation ==
>
> The current message signing standard only works for P2PKH (1...)
> addresses. By extending it to use a Bitcoin Script based approach, it
> could be made more generic without causing a too big burden on
> implementers, who most likely have access to Bitcoin Script
> interpreters already.
>
> == Specification ==
>
> A new structure <code>SignatureProof</code> is added, which is a
> simple serializable scriptSig & witnessProgram container.
>
> Two actions "Sign" and "Verify" are defined.
>
> === SignatureProof container ===
>
> {|class="wikitable" style="text-align: center;"
> |-
> !Type
> !Length
> !Name
> !Comment
> |-
> |Uint32||4||flags||standard flags (1-to-1 with standard flags in Bitcoin Core)
> |-
> |VarInt||1-8||msglen||Number of bytes in message string, excluding NUL
> termination
> |-
> |Char*||[msglen]||msg||The message being signed for all subjects,
> excluding NUL termination
> |-
> |Uint8||1||entries||Number of proof entries<ref><strong>Why support
> multiple proofs?</strong> In particular with proof of funds, it is
> non-trivial to check a large number of individual proofs (one per
> UTXO) for duplicates. Software could be written to do so, but it seems
> more efficient to build this check into the specification
> itself.</ref>
> |}
>
> The above is followed by [entries] number of signature entries:
>
> {|class="wikitable" style="text-align: center;"
> |-
> !Type
> !Length
> !Name
> !Comment
> |-
> |VarInt||1-8||scriptsiglen||Number of bytes in scriptSig data
> |-
> |Uint8*||[scriptsiglen]||scriptsig||ScriptSig data
> |-
> |VarInt||1-8||witlen||Number of bytes in witness program data
> |-
> |Uint8*||[witlen]||wit||Witness program
> |}
>
> In some cases, the scriptsig may be empty (scriptsiglen=0).
>
> === Signing ===
>
> The "Sign" action takes as input a scriptPubKey and a message (e.g.
> "hello world"). It succeeds or fails.
>
> # FAIL if scriptPubKey already exists in scriptPubKeys set, otherwise
> insert it<ref><strong>Why track duplicates?</strong> Because a 3-entry
> proof is not proving 3 scriptPubKeys unless they are all distinct, or
> unless they are proving different UTXO:s (see Future Extensions)</ref>
> # Derive the private key privkey for the scriptPubKey, or FAIL
> # Define the message pre-image as the sequence "Bitcoin Message:"
> concatenated with the message, encoded in UTF-8 using Normalization
> Form Compatibility Decomposition (NFKD)
> # Let sighash = sha256(sha256(scriptPubKey || pre-image))
> # Generate a signature sig with privkey=privkey, sighash=sighash
>
> Repeat the above operation for each scriptPubKey, retaining the
> scriptPubKeys set. As noted, if the same scriptPubKey appears more
> than once, the sign operation must fail.
>
> === Verifying ===
>
> The "Verify" action takes as input a standard flags value, a
> scriptPubKey, a message, a script sig, and a witness program.
> It emits one of INCONCLUSIVE, VALID, INVALID, or ERROR.
>
> # Return ERROR if scriptPubKey already exists in scriptPubKeys set,
> otherwise insert it
> # If one or more of the standard flags are unknown, return INCONCLUSIVE
> # Define the message pre-image as the sequence "Bitcoin Message:"
> concatenated with the message, encoded in UTF-8 using Normalization
> Form Compatibility Decomposition (NFKD).
> # Let sighash = sha256(sha256(scriptPubKey || pre-image))
> # Verify Script with flags=standard flags, scriptSig=script sig,
> scriptPubKey=scriptPubKey, witness=witness program, and
> sighash=sighash
> # Return VALID if verify succeeds, otherwise return INVALID
>
> Repeat the above operation for each scriptPubKey, retaining the
> scriptPubKeys set. As noted, if the same scriptPubKey appears more
> than once, the verify operation must fail with an ERROR.
>
> * If a verification call returns ERROR or INVALID, return ERROR or
> INVALID immediately, ignoring as yet unverified entries.
> * After all verifications complete, return INCONCLUSIVE if any
> verification call returned INCONCLUSIVE.
> * Return VALID if and only if every verification returned VALID.
>
> == Future Extensions ==
>
> === Proof of Funds ===
>
> The specification can be extended to handle proof of funds in the
> following manner:
>
> * Let the message be prefixed with "POF:", followed by a
> newline-terminated string<ref><strong>Why not just the UTXO
> data?</strong> We want the verifier to be able to challenge the prover
> with a custom message to sign, or anyone can reuse the POF proof for a
> set of UTXO:s once they have seen it, and the funds have not yet been
> spent</ref>, followed by [entries] series of hex-encoded transaction
> ID:vout pairs, separated by a single space (" ") character
> * Fail if the number of txid:vout pairs is not exactly equal to [entries]
> * Retain the message as is for all sighash operations (i.e. all sign
> and verify operations should sign and verify the entire list of
> UTXO:s)<ref><strong>Why use same sighash?</strong> The prover is
> proving that they have a set of UTXO:s at their disposal. Taking a
> sub-set of the proofs and turning them into a new proof should not be
> valid.</ref>
> * Add a verification that the txid/vout is a valid UTXO according to a
> synced up Bitcoin node, and that its corresponding scriptPubKey
> matches the one given by the proof. Return ERROR if scriptPubKey
> mismatch, and SPENT error if spent
> * Extend the scriptPubKeys set check to only fail if the same
> scriptPubKey and proof-of-funds txid/vout combination is encountered
>
> == Compatibility ==
>
> This specification is not backwards compatible with the legacy
> signmessage/verifymessage specification. However, legacy addresses
> (1...) may be used in this implementation without any problems.
>
> == Rationale ==
>
> <references/>
>
> == Reference implementation ==
>
> To do.
>
> == Acknowledgements ==
>
> TODO
>
> == References ==
>
> # Original mailing list thread:
> https://lists.linuxfoundation.org/pipermail/bitcoin-dev/2018-March/015818.html
>
> == Copyright ==
>
> This document is licensed under the Creative Commons CC0 1.0 Universal license.
> ---
>
> -Kalle.