Jorge Timón [ARCHIVE] on Nostr: 📅 Original date posted:2022-04-24 📝 Original message:On Sun, Apr 24, 2022 at ...
📅 Original date posted:2022-04-24
📝 Original message:On Sun, Apr 24, 2022 at 2:56 PM Ryan Grant <bitcoin-dev at rgrant.org> wrote:
> Michael and Jorge,
>
> It is ethically inappropriate to make personal attacks on the
> trustworthiness of participants on this list, on such vague grounds as
> disliking an activation proposal!
>
> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Assume_good_faith
>
I don't think the same principle is being applied to me and other people,
sadly.
Some people disregard dissent on the grounds that it comes from "people who
just loo for dissent".
I don't think it is unethical to say the truth. In fact, I think it is fair
that I clarify my bias against jeremy.
I realize it can be held against me.
What I think is hypocritical and unethical is having rules that are only
expected to be followed by some.
Is everyone assuming good intentions from me?
Is everyone assuming good intentions from luke?
Is everyone assuming good intentions from michael?
I don't think so.
It is against the spirit of the project to base your judgements of a
> technical solution on who presents them! You should not be so
> technically adrift that you only have reputation left to speak about.
>
I disagree, I think it is against the spirit of the project to trust ideas
based on who they come from.
In that sense, I apologize for not being able to distrust every other
developer as much as I can distrust jeremy.
> If you disagree with ideas, then shoot them down on the technical merits.
>
>
> https://lists.linuxfoundation.org/pipermail/bitcoin-dev/2015-October/011457.html
>
I've tried regarding bip8 and speedy trial. I may be wrong, but I think
those ideas have been discarded not on their technical merits, but based on
who were promoting them. I feel there has been a biased against people like
Luke-jr or me.
That's subjective. Perhaps I'm just being paranoid. But I truly think
Jeremy distrusts me and luke as much as I distrusts him, he just won't say
it.
Anyway, I had said it once before, so I guess there's no need to further
disclaim my bias against jeremy.
> If you disagree with people, then take it to smuttier sections of the
> Internet.
>
>
Yeah, to twitter, right? lol, sorry, I couldn't resist the joke.
Sorry.
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📝 Original message:On Sun, Apr 24, 2022 at 2:56 PM Ryan Grant <bitcoin-dev at rgrant.org> wrote:
> Michael and Jorge,
>
> It is ethically inappropriate to make personal attacks on the
> trustworthiness of participants on this list, on such vague grounds as
> disliking an activation proposal!
>
> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Assume_good_faith
>
I don't think the same principle is being applied to me and other people,
sadly.
Some people disregard dissent on the grounds that it comes from "people who
just loo for dissent".
I don't think it is unethical to say the truth. In fact, I think it is fair
that I clarify my bias against jeremy.
I realize it can be held against me.
What I think is hypocritical and unethical is having rules that are only
expected to be followed by some.
Is everyone assuming good intentions from me?
Is everyone assuming good intentions from luke?
Is everyone assuming good intentions from michael?
I don't think so.
It is against the spirit of the project to base your judgements of a
> technical solution on who presents them! You should not be so
> technically adrift that you only have reputation left to speak about.
>
I disagree, I think it is against the spirit of the project to trust ideas
based on who they come from.
In that sense, I apologize for not being able to distrust every other
developer as much as I can distrust jeremy.
> If you disagree with ideas, then shoot them down on the technical merits.
>
>
> https://lists.linuxfoundation.org/pipermail/bitcoin-dev/2015-October/011457.html
>
I've tried regarding bip8 and speedy trial. I may be wrong, but I think
those ideas have been discarded not on their technical merits, but based on
who were promoting them. I feel there has been a biased against people like
Luke-jr or me.
That's subjective. Perhaps I'm just being paranoid. But I truly think
Jeremy distrusts me and luke as much as I distrusts him, he just won't say
it.
Anyway, I had said it once before, so I guess there's no need to further
disclaim my bias against jeremy.
> If you disagree with people, then take it to smuttier sections of the
> Internet.
>
>
Yeah, to twitter, right? lol, sorry, I couldn't resist the joke.
Sorry.
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