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Original date posted:2012-01-16
š Original message:> I agree Bitcoin should avoid making any bold political stands.
I agree on this. Please don't turn Bitcoin project/homepage into some
political agitation. Not everybody care about political attitude of main
project developers.
slush
On Tue, Jan 17, 2012 at 1:46 AM, Alan Reiner <etotheipi at gmail.com> wrote:
> **
> You guys are representing both extremes of the issue. In response to Jeff
> and Luke-Jr, I don't see how this is *just any other poltical issue*. It
> strikes at the heart of everything Bitcoin is about. Barring
> Bitcoin-specific legislation, I don't see how any legislation could be more
> relevant to Bitcoin and the community around it.
>
> On the other hand, Bitcoin is still a non-entity, and shouldn't get in the
> business of making statements. A central voice for Bitcoin gives the
> impression that it is actually centralized, and one that has opinions.
> Plus I wouldn't be surprised if some, heavily-invested Bitcoin users were
> of the opinion that SOPA/PIPA/whatever could be a huge profit for
> themselves: once SOPA kicks in and businesses around the world start
> getting cut off for legit or illegitimate purposes, a lot of them could
> potentially switch to Bitcoin to keep their business going. That could be
> a huge boon for Bitcoin. You may not agree it's worth the tradeoff, but
> people are selfish and may not actually understand or even care about SOPA
> legislation itself.
>
> I think it's *not inappropriate* for something to be mentioned on the
> website about Bitcoin's philosophy being threatened by SOPA, but I agree
> Bitcoin should avoid making any bold political stands. Users could be
> reminded that SOPA affects yet another thing they care about, but it might
> be better to avoid it altogether. If any response is made, it should be a
> very light one.
>
> -Alan
>
>
>
> On 01/16/2012 07:30 PM, Amir Taaki wrote:
>
> Bunk argument. This is an issue that affects bitcoin directly.
>
> Wikipedia has far more need to remain neutral and apolitical than bitcoin ever does- you've read Satoshi's politically charged whitepaper or seen the genesis block quote.
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:SOPA_initiative/Action
>
> The Wikipedia community decided on a full and global blackout. Bitcoin should do the same in unison with the rest of the web- sites like Reddit, 4chan and Wikipedia.
>
> It's funny / almost comical how you consign this to being just another issue or case of moral alarm. Sad.
>
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Jeff Garzik <jgarzik at exmulti.com> <jgarzik at exmulti.com>
> To: Amir Taaki <zgenjix at yahoo.com> <zgenjix at yahoo.com>
> Cc: "bitcoin-development at lists.sourceforge.net" <bitcoin-development at lists.sourceforge.net> <bitcoin-development at lists.sourceforge.net> <bitcoin-development at lists.sourceforge.net>
> Sent: Sunday, January 15, 2012 10:37 PM
> Subject: Re: [Bitcoin-development] bitcoin.org SOPA/PIPA blackout
>
> On Sun, Jan 15, 2012 at 5:09 PM, Amir Taaki <zgenjix at yahoo.com> <zgenjix at yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> How is this not the most important world issue right now?
>
> EVERYTHING is under threat. Go nuclear to show our nerd-rage.
>
> Everybody blank your personal sites too. Americans, take to the streets. World, go scream at the US embassy.
>
> There are always issues that raise ire and moral outrage. I would
> rather that bitcoin.org stay apolitical -- our users will appreciate
> this in the long run.
>
>
>
>
>
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š Original message:> I agree Bitcoin should avoid making any bold political stands.
I agree on this. Please don't turn Bitcoin project/homepage into some
political agitation. Not everybody care about political attitude of main
project developers.
slush
On Tue, Jan 17, 2012 at 1:46 AM, Alan Reiner <etotheipi at gmail.com> wrote:
> **
> You guys are representing both extremes of the issue. In response to Jeff
> and Luke-Jr, I don't see how this is *just any other poltical issue*. It
> strikes at the heart of everything Bitcoin is about. Barring
> Bitcoin-specific legislation, I don't see how any legislation could be more
> relevant to Bitcoin and the community around it.
>
> On the other hand, Bitcoin is still a non-entity, and shouldn't get in the
> business of making statements. A central voice for Bitcoin gives the
> impression that it is actually centralized, and one that has opinions.
> Plus I wouldn't be surprised if some, heavily-invested Bitcoin users were
> of the opinion that SOPA/PIPA/whatever could be a huge profit for
> themselves: once SOPA kicks in and businesses around the world start
> getting cut off for legit or illegitimate purposes, a lot of them could
> potentially switch to Bitcoin to keep their business going. That could be
> a huge boon for Bitcoin. You may not agree it's worth the tradeoff, but
> people are selfish and may not actually understand or even care about SOPA
> legislation itself.
>
> I think it's *not inappropriate* for something to be mentioned on the
> website about Bitcoin's philosophy being threatened by SOPA, but I agree
> Bitcoin should avoid making any bold political stands. Users could be
> reminded that SOPA affects yet another thing they care about, but it might
> be better to avoid it altogether. If any response is made, it should be a
> very light one.
>
> -Alan
>
>
>
> On 01/16/2012 07:30 PM, Amir Taaki wrote:
>
> Bunk argument. This is an issue that affects bitcoin directly.
>
> Wikipedia has far more need to remain neutral and apolitical than bitcoin ever does- you've read Satoshi's politically charged whitepaper or seen the genesis block quote.
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:SOPA_initiative/Action
>
> The Wikipedia community decided on a full and global blackout. Bitcoin should do the same in unison with the rest of the web- sites like Reddit, 4chan and Wikipedia.
>
> It's funny / almost comical how you consign this to being just another issue or case of moral alarm. Sad.
>
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Jeff Garzik <jgarzik at exmulti.com> <jgarzik at exmulti.com>
> To: Amir Taaki <zgenjix at yahoo.com> <zgenjix at yahoo.com>
> Cc: "bitcoin-development at lists.sourceforge.net" <bitcoin-development at lists.sourceforge.net> <bitcoin-development at lists.sourceforge.net> <bitcoin-development at lists.sourceforge.net>
> Sent: Sunday, January 15, 2012 10:37 PM
> Subject: Re: [Bitcoin-development] bitcoin.org SOPA/PIPA blackout
>
> On Sun, Jan 15, 2012 at 5:09 PM, Amir Taaki <zgenjix at yahoo.com> <zgenjix at yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> How is this not the most important world issue right now?
>
> EVERYTHING is under threat. Go nuclear to show our nerd-rage.
>
> Everybody blank your personal sites too. Americans, take to the streets. World, go scream at the US embassy.
>
> There are always issues that raise ire and moral outrage. I would
> rather that bitcoin.org stay apolitical -- our users will appreciate
> this in the long run.
>
>
>
>
>
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------
> Keep Your Developer Skills Current with LearnDevNow!
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> is just $99.99! Visual Studio, SharePoint, SQL - plus HTML5, CSS3, MVC3,
> Metro Style Apps, more. Free future releases when you subscribe now!
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