Jeff Garzik [ARCHIVE] on Nostr: š Original date posted:2015-05-07 š Original message:Yes - but you must ...
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Original date posted:2015-05-07
š Original message:Yes - but you must recognize that is precisely 50% of the picture.
Others have made different assumptions - taking the [1MB-constrained]
market *as it exists today*, rather than in some projected future.
Raising the block size limit then becomes a *human decision* to favor some
users over others, a *human decision* to prevent an active and competitive
free fee market developing at 1MB, a *human decision* to keep transaction
fees low to incentivize bitcoin adoption, a *human decision* to value
adoption over decentralization.
These statements are not value judgements - not saying you are wrong -
these are observations of some rather huge, relevant blind spots in this
debate.
On Thu, May 7, 2015 at 11:29 AM, Mike Hearn <mike at plan99.net> wrote:
> It is a trivial *code* change. It is not a trivial change to the
>> economics of a $3.2B system.
>>
>
> Hmm - again I'd argue the opposite.
>
> Up until now Bitcoin has been unconstrained by the hard block size limit.
>
> If we raise it, Bitcoin will continue to be unconstrained by it. That's
> the default "continue as we are" position.
>
> If it's not raised, then ....... well, then we're in new territory
> entirely. Businesses built on the assumption that Bitcoin could become
> popular will suddenly have their basic assumptions invalidated. Users will
> leave. The technical code change would be zero, but the economic change
> would be significant.
>
--
Jeff Garzik
Bitcoin core developer and open source evangelist
BitPay, Inc. https://bitpay.com/
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š Original message:Yes - but you must recognize that is precisely 50% of the picture.
Others have made different assumptions - taking the [1MB-constrained]
market *as it exists today*, rather than in some projected future.
Raising the block size limit then becomes a *human decision* to favor some
users over others, a *human decision* to prevent an active and competitive
free fee market developing at 1MB, a *human decision* to keep transaction
fees low to incentivize bitcoin adoption, a *human decision* to value
adoption over decentralization.
These statements are not value judgements - not saying you are wrong -
these are observations of some rather huge, relevant blind spots in this
debate.
On Thu, May 7, 2015 at 11:29 AM, Mike Hearn <mike at plan99.net> wrote:
> It is a trivial *code* change. It is not a trivial change to the
>> economics of a $3.2B system.
>>
>
> Hmm - again I'd argue the opposite.
>
> Up until now Bitcoin has been unconstrained by the hard block size limit.
>
> If we raise it, Bitcoin will continue to be unconstrained by it. That's
> the default "continue as we are" position.
>
> If it's not raised, then ....... well, then we're in new territory
> entirely. Businesses built on the assumption that Bitcoin could become
> popular will suddenly have their basic assumptions invalidated. Users will
> leave. The technical code change would be zero, but the economic change
> would be significant.
>
--
Jeff Garzik
Bitcoin core developer and open source evangelist
BitPay, Inc. https://bitpay.com/
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