Benjamin Mord [ARCHIVE] on Nostr: 📅 Original date posted:2018-01-16 📝 Original message: Thanks. It sounds like it ...
📅 Original date posted:2018-01-16
📝 Original message:
Thanks. It sounds like it was dropped due to difficulty in the routing
protocol. Is that difficulty documented somewhere I can review? If so, I
might take a crack at a solution to it. But regardless I suggest the
protocol should support negative fees, even if an individual routing
implementation prefers to treat as 0 for simplicity. That should be up to
the implementation I think, and not a protocol constraint.
On Tue, Jan 16, 2018 at 2:58 PM, William Casarin <jb55 at jb55.com> wrote:
> Benjamin Mord <ben at mord.io> writes:
> > [..]
> > why not allow negative fees to incent unwinding, in scenarios where nodes
> > consider that cheaper than on-chain rebalancing?
>
> This was brought up before here [1]:
>
> Rusty Russell <rusty at rustcorp.com.au> writes:
> >> Edward Marynarz <edziumarynarz at gmail.com> writes:
> >> Another trivial question: can the fee be negative? It might help with
> some
> >> channel rebalancing.
>
> >In my original implementation, they could be. However, that turns out
> >to be a very strange idea, and complicates routing.
>
> [1] https://lists.linuxfoundation.org/pipermail/lightning-dev/
> 2017-December/000827.html
>
> Cheers,
>
> --
> https://jb55.com
>
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📝 Original message:
Thanks. It sounds like it was dropped due to difficulty in the routing
protocol. Is that difficulty documented somewhere I can review? If so, I
might take a crack at a solution to it. But regardless I suggest the
protocol should support negative fees, even if an individual routing
implementation prefers to treat as 0 for simplicity. That should be up to
the implementation I think, and not a protocol constraint.
On Tue, Jan 16, 2018 at 2:58 PM, William Casarin <jb55 at jb55.com> wrote:
> Benjamin Mord <ben at mord.io> writes:
> > [..]
> > why not allow negative fees to incent unwinding, in scenarios where nodes
> > consider that cheaper than on-chain rebalancing?
>
> This was brought up before here [1]:
>
> Rusty Russell <rusty at rustcorp.com.au> writes:
> >> Edward Marynarz <edziumarynarz at gmail.com> writes:
> >> Another trivial question: can the fee be negative? It might help with
> some
> >> channel rebalancing.
>
> >In my original implementation, they could be. However, that turns out
> >to be a very strange idea, and complicates routing.
>
> [1] https://lists.linuxfoundation.org/pipermail/lightning-dev/
> 2017-December/000827.html
>
> Cheers,
>
> --
> https://jb55.com
>
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